Rewiring Limiting Beliefs with Lion Goodman: Healing the Subconscious to Transform Your Life

In this powerful episode of Empowered Within, I sit down with Lion Goodman—founder of the Clear Beliefs Institute, professional certified coach, teacher, healer, and subconscious pattern detective with more than 40 years of experience.

Lion shares how childhood experiences and subconscious programming shape our lives—and how we can finally clear the limiting beliefs that hold us back. We explore:

• The difference between thoughts and beliefs (and why affirmations alone don’t work)
• How subconscious beliefs are formed through trauma, repetition, and indoctrination
• Why true transformation requires multidimensional healing at the root level
• Real client stories that prove profound, permanent change is possible
• Practical steps to uncover and clear your own hidden beliefs

Lion’s Clear Beliefs Method has helped thousands break free from patterns of pain, fear, and self-sabotage to create lasting transformation. Whether you’re struggling with money blocks, childhood wounds, or feeling stuck in repeating cycles, this conversation will give you hope—and tools to reclaim your light.

👉 Tune in and discover how clearing limiting beliefs can open the door to joy, freedom, and a life aligned with your true self.

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Welcome to Empowered Within a Soul Clenching transformational podcast that will set your soul on fire through candid and inspiring conversations. Leading experts, celebrities, healers, and I share our journeys of how we've overcome challenges to living an empowered life from within. I'm your host, Jennifer Pilates. Welcome to another episode of Empowered Within.

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Well, hello there and welcome to the show. I am so excited to have with us our guest, Lyon Goodman. He's the founder of Clear Beliefs Institute. He's a professional certified therapeutic coach with 40 years experience as an executive coach, teacher, healer, and subconscious pattern detective. He's the creator of the Clear Beliefs Method for deleting, limiting beliefs, healing childhood wounds, and resolving traumas from the past. He's dedicated to awakening, healing, and enlightening humanity so that we can get on with a job of being fully human, working in collaboration to create a world that works for everyone. Line is the author of five books, including Clear Your Client's Limiting Beliefs, creating On Purpose and Transforming Trauma. Welcome to the show line. I am so excited to have you here. Thank you, Jennifer. I'm excited to be here. This is, we have so much to dive into that. Oh my goodness. So much to talk about. But before we talk about how you became coined, the subconscious detective, I'd love to know what got you on this journey. Well, I was born at a very early age. Which is, true for most people. As I was growing up, I felt alone. I felt detached and I didn't belong. I didn't belong to my family. I didn't really attach to any, to my parents or my siblings, or even our dogs. And so it got me into the, my mind, and so I started. Being curious about my own mind. And I began to study everything I could about the mind and the brain and neurology. And then I got into psychic phenomenon and reincarnation. And basically I've been a seeker all my life. And my primary goal was to fix myself so I could be normal. And fortunately, after, you know, 50 years of self-development work, I never became normal. So that's the, fun part. Yay. Yay. Good for you. I love that. Not being normal. That is amazing. So when you look back over all your research studies from psychology to neurology and spirituality and philosophy, what was your biggest takeaway? The biggest aha moment. Through all those years of research. Well, of course there were hundreds of them, but, I'll give you one of my favorites. It's when I realized that beliefs were at the core of all personal change efforts, and that when I changed my belief, a core belief, everything else changed, my perspective changed the way I looked at myself, changed the way I looked at others, and the world changed. And that beliefs were actually the core of that change process. And then I started studying all the belief change efforts that I could, and most of them had. The same problem as most of the workshops and trainings that I did was that they produced temporary or partial results. I felt good for a couple of days and then I was kind of back to my old self again. I was back to my old reactions again. When something deep in me changed that was profound and permanent, that's when real shifts occurred. And so I was asking myself the question, what is it about those particular experiences that were truly transformational versus those temporary feel good moments? And that was when I made the next discovery, which was that beliefs are not mental constructs, and most people treat them as mental constructs. Like thoughts? Oh, I believe, I'm not a good person, so I'll just change my mind. I am a good person. Well, that's groovy for a little while, as long as you can keep doing the affirmation a few thou thousand times. But you keep coming back to the old belief because you haven't cleared it completely from the psyche. And so by understanding what was going on, I really understood that beliefs in the way I talk about them are the infrastructure of the human mind. They're not mental constructs, they're multidimensional constructs because they come from our experience and our experience is multidimensional. Right now, you and our listeners are seeing and feeling and sensing and intuiting and knowing and understanding, and you're in a particular environment and in particular relationships. And so that's, we are multidimensional beings having multidimensional experiences at all times. So our beliefs which are created must also be multidimensional. And so that's when I realized we can change the beliefs at the core if we change them multidimensional. Okay, so I love this. Let's break down first,'cause people like multidimensional, what are you saying? Am I an alien? What does this mean, lion? So let's start with that first and then we'll deep dive into more belief stuff. Great. So let's think about the dimensions of right now you're having an experience. If you tried to describe your experience completely and fully right now, it might take you, you know, a book to describe this moment right now. There's been books written like that where they describe a whole afternoon's experience in one book. So there's a lot going on where complex beings we're part of everything. We're connected to everything around us, and all of that is being sensed at this moment. So. Seeing, feeling intuiting, knowing all of these things are happening right now. You're listening to my words, you're interpreting them through your own filters, your own understandings. You're asking yourself the question, is he really talking something new or is the same old bullshit you are. You know, you're, you are fitting it in with your own understandings at the moment and saying, does this make sense? Does it not make sense? Is this something I should throw away or something I should keep? So all this is going on at once, and no matter which dimension you look at, there's a lot going on. So you're not only hearing my voice, you're also hearing the surrounding room that you're in or outside noises. You're not just seeing me, you're seeing peripheral in your peripheral vision. Everything around you, you're sensing. Energetically, you're not only your own energetic system, your chakras, you're also sensing the air around you and the people around you. So that's what I mean by multidimensional. We're for, we're highly complex beings. And experience is what I traffic in, because that's the real stuff. I know a lot about neurology, but we don't experience our neurology. We experience our experience. Right. And that's an excellent explanation for that. So when we dive into the belief aspect, and everyone knows that, I believe if you're gonna do anything, you have to get to the root cause of something, which is the subconscious of what you're a professional with. For sure. And I know that's on your docket when we first just dive into belief so that people understand the difference between what is a belief versus a thought. Kind of like what you were talking about a few moments ago. How could you decipher that? And then we can keep digging into that. So a thought is produced, in the mind, right? Or we could say the brain doesn't matter, brain, mind. And it's a, usually is it's languaged. So my thought is you're a nice person. Now that comes from an experience. I'm experiencing you first, and then I come to a conclusion. You're a nice person. As soon as it's a conclusion, it's based on all the previous conclusions I've ever had. That's the belief structure. So I've met lots of people, they've been different. I've, I'm assessing you, I'm looking at you and judging you and going, yeah, she's a nice person. So that's a thought, but it's not just a single thought that you could separate out from the matrix. It's part of a gigantic matrix of thinking. If we look at beliefs as structures that the infrastructure think about, the pipes underground that bring utilities to our house, right? That's an infrastructure. It means inside structure that we don't see, we're not aware of, right? If we took all the pipes underground and we put them on top of the ground, we couldn't drive anywhere, right? It very messy, right? So our infrastructure are. Understandings that we've come to from our experience. Let's say you're drawing a, with a crayon on the wall, happily as a 2-year-old because you're just expressing yourself creatively in colors and designs. And your mother walks in and says, what are you doing? Stop that. And suddenly your joy is being cut off. And we call this interrupted enthusiasm. So enthusiasm comes from the Greek and theos, which means in God. So your God self is expressing yourself. Your creativity's coming out, and boom, something comes in and stops. It, interrupts it. And of course, you've made your mother mad. That's a survival problem. If your mother doesn't like you, she might throw you out to the wolves. And so you have to come to a conclusion. You have to make meaning like, what just happened here? And what happened was, I did something bad. I made mother angry. I must be a bad person. What I did was bad, or I'm bad. And that becomes a core belief, especially if it happens over and over again. So traumas can create core beliefs very, very quickly and easily. And repeated traumas can also reinforce beliefs. Now we also get beliefs from others. We get their beliefs'cause they indoctrinate us. Indoctrinate means to put indoctrinate in, to put a belief into someone. So we get indoctrinated by our parents, this is who you are, this is what you should do, this is what you'll be when you grow up. This is what's right. This is what's wrong. This is good to eat. That's not good to eat. Then we go to our siblings and they tell us stuff that they've learned. And then we go to school and all the kids and the teachers tell us what they've learned. And then we go to church or synagogue or the mosque, and we find out what the authorities say is true about life. And so we're accumulating these beliefs, this infrastructural understanding of the world ourselves and others over time. That builds up into tens of thousands of beliefs that are used to then interpret the world and our experience so much there. So powerful. Because, you know what I kept, like zoning in on is, well, that poor little child just learned that joy isn't good. Exactly. That's what, that was the one thing that stood out in what you were sharing. I mean, of course the other stuff to me, I get that, but I thought, oh my gosh, that poor child now associates joy with being bad. Exactly with mom being angry, which means danger, which means I've gotta figure out very quickly how to, how to be safe. Okay. I won't ever do that again. I won't make mother angry again. I, you know, so yeah, there's all kinds of strategies that come out of these experiences. So we have behavioral strategies that come out of our conclusions, and now we have a personality developed based on those strategies. I think I'll just stay quiet and I won't do anything. So mom doesn't get mad. Now I look like a shy child. That's a strategy. It's not a full self-expression. It's a way of making sure that I'm safe. So the ego wants to survive. It wants to be safe, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. So it figures out how to survive and thrive in the world. Right. Do you feel that nine times outta 10 when you're working with someone and you're going through your system, that most of the energetic blockages, the belief system, has been obtained from the trauma in childhood? See, I'm considering nine out of 10. I would say that it's certainly the vast majority. And what we do in our process is we have the person, first of all, deal with whatever they're dealing with right now. Like what we ask the question, what are you experiencing right now that you'd rather not be experiencing? And then we go to the body,'cause everything happens in the body. Right? So what does it feel like to have that happening? We get into the feel and that, not just the feel word description, but the actual description of a sensation. That feels like a square block in my heart, made of steel that weighs 12 pounds and it, and is still, but it's cold. Okay. So that's a description of a sensation. Say, okay, now let's go back in time. And when you felt that previously and spiral back in time and find all the times when you felt that block in your heart and go back to the ear. First time you can feel it. The first time you remember feeling it. And that process gets a person back to oh my God, I was three years old. I was drawing on the wall. My mother came in, she yelled at me, I froze. So, so now we've got something to work with. Now we can reprogram that original experience and sometimes it's many experiences, but if we can get to the earliest one, that's where the real leverage is. So then we work with that experience and we transform it, which then transforms everything else. Right, that ripple effect that comes after it. So with your method, the Clear Beliefs Method, I love that name. It just feels so light and literally clearing. You're just, you just know there's so much behind that. How do you feel that your program is different versus all of the other subconscious programs that are out there that you know, everything that wants to erase and reroute your limiting beliefs? What makes you so amazing? Because you are so amazing. I know, but I want our listeners to know. Well, I, I've, I've studied, I dunno, probably, uh, 50 or 60 different belief change methods, and they all are based on the same principle, which is that you're, that thoughts are things and if you change your thoughts, you change your experience. That's partially true. A belief is not just a thought, it's also a feeling of physical sensation. It's also a history. It's also a memory. It's also a limitation in behavior. It's also, you know, the whole thing, the, that multidi dimension. And so if you just clear the thought. W whether it's with affirmations or mental restructuring or there's a hundred names for changing your mind, just think different. Yeah. Right. But that's temporary. Exactly. And it doesn't work. But when you go back and change it experientially, multidimensionally that's when it's permanent and profound and it doesn't come back. And that's our experience with thousands of clients is that old thing that was haunting them is gone. I'll give you an example if that's okay. Absolutely. I was working with a psychotherapist who had a successful practice. She had a great marriage and kids, she, but the one thing she could never clear was this feeling something bad is gonna happen. She felt it all the time. And she tried psychotherapy, she tried drugs and she tried, the long list of right practices to clear it and nothing worked. So she found me. She said, all right, I'll challenge you. Can you change this? And in one session we cleared it from the core of her psyche. And I checked with her a couple months later. I said, you know, how are you doing? She said, it's amazing. After a lifetime of feeling that feeling and having that thought and looking around to see what was bad was gonna happen. I haven't felt it at all. Wait. She said, hold on. I did have the thought a week ago, something bad's gonna happen. And I realized, oh, I don't believe that anymore. And it went away. So that's the proof, that's the acid test for whether this really works or not. And for really for any process that works, did it go away and stay away? Is it gone completely or does it keep coming back and haunting you again and again? And so that's the difference between what we do and what most other people do. That is so amazing. And I've done lots of different things having met amazing people like you on the podcast and just through my own trials and tribulations over the years, and exactly what you're saying, I find like, yes, you can write out your affirmations, you can say your affirmations, you can do this. But when you get into the subconscious, and I don't know how much you're comfortable sharing. Everyone has a little sweet tea that they add to it, right? Is it. P, are we going under, are we trancing just because of your amazing voice? How do you get someone to go there? First of all, we don't do hypnosis. We don't do NLP. We don't do any of those other things. I put this system together myself, and I've discovered that there's many other people doing similar things. I just gathered whatever worked best for me over 40 years of. Trial and error. We don't put people in trance. We do have them close their eyes, which some people go, oh, that's trance. Well, not really.'cause we're not saying you will be, you'll listen to my voice and everything would be wonderful. So we don't do that. We just have a conversation with a person and say, okay, would you please close your eyes. And then we take them on an inner journey. But we say to them, look, you're, you'll be conscious the whole time. We'll be dialoguing. Just tell me what you're experiencing. And that's enough. It doesn't have to be all woowoo and mystical and, trancey. Right. And I ask that because I, you know, I just know, and I can sense some people go, oh, here we go again. Someone wants to try to put me under. And that, I remember in my early stages, like someone would say NLP and I'd be like, peace out. Bye. I, no. And you know, and now I've experienced it in different ways. But that's why I think it's so important for people to understand. There's so many. Different modalities and you just have to find what works for you. Absolutely. And find the right person. Because a lot of times too, it's the connection with the individual that allows you to get to that place where you're willing to truly be authentic and vulnerable. And then that's when the gates can open and, miracles can happen. Yeah. As I said, I've taken over a hundred workshops and trainings. I spent 20 years, doing shamanic practices. All of this has informed what I do and I have a comprehensive view of human beings. I see them as beautiful lights that are shining, but then it gets covered over with all the crap that we've accumulated in our lifetime. And my job is just to help clear the layers of chunk that has been accumulated. All of those decades, and we do it one piece at a time. You can't do it all at once. If so, you, you blow people away. But by clearing the major pieces out of the way, pretty soon people brighten up and they have a different view of themselves in the world right now. We just completed a six month project with, with a welfare department of a state in the northeast. And we were coaching people who were in poverty who wanted to get out of poverty. And in, in just six months, we got a lot of them out of poverty, but they all changed their viewpoint. And so we feel it was a real success. We're gonna be writing up a research, paper pretty soon. But, but we saw incredible results and the people in the authority and the government said, we've never seen. This kind of transformation before in anything we've ever offered to people. And people are coming back to us and saying, oh my God, my life has changed. Nobody's ever said that to us before. So this was a pilot project, but we hope to expand it, because, even poverty is traumatic all the time. It's like there's no PTSD, it's all TSD. It's trauma, trauma, trauma all the time. There's no post. And so trying to help people clear those major pieces of the traumatic experience of poverty, it's a job. And it takes time to clear the big chunks out of the way. And then the person has themselves and they say, okay, I can take it from here. I've got it now. Thank you for clearing those things that I couldn't see. And so that's divine work for us. First and foremost, congratulations. That is incredible work to be doing in our world right now. And that just warms my heart to hear that program, gosh, I hope it goes worldwide for you. Me too.'cause we need that. We really need that. No one should be in pain. No one should be living in poverty. I don't believe that's not why any of us are here on earth. I agree. When you are working with someone, do you find that perhaps they come to you for one reason and then all of a sudden you begin pulling back the onion, but really while they're there is something completely different that like maybe a cause and effect to why they show up. I'll give you a great story about that. So, a very advanced CEO came to me and he said, I've made millions of dollars, but I've also lost millions of dollars. In fact, every time I make millions of dollars, I lose millions of dollars. I don't know what's underneath that, but can you help me? I said, sure, let's go exploring. So in about the third session in, I took him back to his childhood, which he did not remember until we did the work. And he suddenly remembered being on the streets of New York with his mother hand in hand. He was about two years old, uh, and he looked down and he saw shiny penny, and he reached down to pick it up and his mother jerked him back and said, don't touch that. It's dirty. And he realized that the reason he couldn't hold onto his money. Was because it was dirty and he shouldn't touch it. So he had to therefore lose his millions that he had was very good at making, because he couldn't hold onto it. And that transformed his life. He didn't have to lose millions of dollars anymore. So that's an example of a behavioral pattern. Yeah. That has its roots very, very deep in the psyche below the level of memory. And one of the things that works for us is instead of trying to go back in your memory, which is a verbal mental process, we go back through feeling and our feeling memory is much deeper and longer than our mental memory.'cause our basically our brains aren't fully developed until about age two or three. And that's why most people don't remember that. But we take people back into early memories, even into the womb and sometimes further back into past lives. So these influences are deep and profound, and, but we can find the core, the root clear it, and it disappears from life. That is an incredible share. That was, wow. I mean, I really hope that people just stop and just pause and re-listen to that part because that is so powerful. I mean, literally everyday things affect us consciously, subconsciously. Which brings me to something that I read about when digging in is that there are symptoms and conditions around negative and limiting beliefs that they can cause in the body. And I don't think that people realize that. And I'm wondering if you're willing to share some of that, to shed some light on that for people. Sure. So the body is one of those many dimensions. It's many of the dimensions.'cause it carries our senses, it carries our nervous system, it carries our patterns. So it's anything that, that we're limited by is going to show up in the body at some time, in some way. It might not show up until you're an adult. You know when you have a heart attack, but that heart attack is likely based on the limiting belief. I can't be angry, so I have to suppress all the anger. And so all that has to go somewhere. When we suppress an experience, when we avoid experiencing something fully, it gets, we have to put it somewhere and it often gets shoved into the body. It can also get shoved out into psychic space where it's sort of a piece of you is separated from you. So in shamanic studies, they call it soul retrieval. We call it voice dialogue, where we bring back those parts of ourselves that got left behind somewhere. But there's, physical results of our limitations. Now, here's another important fact. All beliefs are limiting all of them. For example, when I say that is a cat. Call that a true statement, right? A fact. But in fact, it's a belief that is a, that is an animal called a cat. As soon as you say that as a cat, you no longer have a relationship with that creature. You're now in your head, you've labeled it, and so you're not experiencing the wonder of that animal. If you live with an animal, you get to experience, its wonder because you're not labeling it all the time, but you see a cat in somebody else's house and it's over there. It's a thing, right? So we thingify in our language and we thingify in our brain, and so every word is a belief. So our entire language is a belief structure. Beliefs are basically taking the whole incredible complex universe, world and shoving it into a little box and putting a label on it. And so when you start going down the belief, uh, rabbit hole, you find its beliefs all the way down, right? Until you get to raw experience. And so that's where the infrastructure is in that, in the deep subconscious where you've come to conclusions and strategies and behaviors that work to survive that particular situation. But then they get applied the rest of your life. And now you can't hold onto your money because your mother told you it was dirty and you shouldn't touch it. Right? I, oh, I love this. I just had this experience with someone the other day who they were having a, a flare up, a very bad pain episode, and they were like, oh my gosh, the last time this happened, I was sick for days and blah, blah. So they went right back to that experience and I literally grabbed the person and I said, look at me. This is today. This is this moment. You are not sick. You're having a moment. This is not 12 years ago. This is this moment in time. You could just see like this sense of relief.'cause there was so much fear around it. I mean, it was, I wasn't doing what you were doing, but just to give an example of where we go. And I think that so much in life, people don't even realize, again, it goes back to people think it's a cliche of watch your words, but literally watch your words and watch where you allow yourself to go mentally and physically and emotionally. Yeah. And watch your beliefs. What do you believe about that thing that you just said? What do you believe about that thing you just experienced? One of the rules of the mind, which I think is, will be helpful for everybody, is that, that when you completely feel and experience something. Anything. It goes through a creation cycle and it gets completed. Like it got created, you experienced it, and it's complete. It's done. It's done. Every experience wants to be experienced, every feeling wants to be felt. So whenever you don't feel it completely or don't experience it completely, it gets stored somewhere and it gets stuck in what's called a resistance cycle. I want to go and exercise today, but I don't feel like it today. Okay. So I'm going to take those two opposite beliefs and store them somewhere'cause it's a conflict. Or I really want mom and dad to stop fighting and I'm too little. I can't do anything about it. So I'm just going to ignore. The fact that I really want them to stop fighting and all the bad feelings that go along with that. So I'll put it somewhere, and that way if they fight, I won't feel anything. All of those stored experiences that didn't get fully felt or experienced, they get stuck in the system. It's like putting a kink in a water hose. And so we become more and more limited the more we don't experience until people become numb and they become inured to whatever they're experiencing. So our job, all of our jobs, is to go back and bring up all those past experiences that we put somewhere and re-experience them so they can get completed when they're complete, they go away. Love this too. I had something happen the other day. I wanna, and it's, it sounds like what you're saying, but I wanna see if it's similar, so. Our lives, we continuously repeat the same patterns until we get the lesson right, and then we get to move on. And it sort of sounds like that's what you're saying. And I had a conversation with someone the other day and I was frustrated about something and we did this 180 mind set shift and she said, do you realize a, B and C is playing out and you've never completed it? The last three times it came up because of your exit strategy. And I went, I hadn't thought of it that way. And so she was like, do you think you can sit through this? Like, makes me cry and get the lesson? And I was like, well, yeah. And but, and I think that you'll appreciate this line. I was coming from the mindset of, well, I have set healthy boundaries. God, the universe is gonna be so proud of me that I'm set, I'm sticking to these healthy boundaries. But there was a whole nother piece to it that I was never even seeing. I was missing out. Kind of like what you're saying, like we have to exper.'cause I wasn't experie. There was a whole experience that I was missing out on that I didn't even realize because of a limiting belief of thinking that this one thing is what I was supposed to be doing. Right. That's one of many ways to avoid your experience. You can think about it, you can, distract yourself by going somewhere else. You can suppress it, you can hide it, you can, talk to someone about it endlessly without ever experiencing it. You know, there's, we have hundreds of ways of not experiencing our experience, but there's only one way to actually experience it fully. And that is to feel it in its fullness at the moment. And most experiences, most feelings last 30 to 90 seconds. Here's a fun experiment people can do. If you ever get up in the night and you bang your shin against a table,'cause you're not, because the lights are off. And my immediate reaction is, oh god damn, who was, I'm so stupid. Who put that there? I, what an idiot I am. You know? So suddenly I'm not experiencing the pain of my shin, I'm in my head blaming somebody else or myself. Okay? So here's the trick. Instead of doing that, take your shin and push it up against the table again, and feel the pain completely. Ah, and it usually goes away in 30 to 90 seconds. And then you won't bruise. Interesting. Yeah. So that's what it means to fully experience, to feel it. And we're, we're all pretty willing to experience something pleasurable, but we're often resistant to feeling things that are painful. But painful is part of life. The pain wants to be felt, it wants to be experienced if the nervous system is in information superhighway. And if you get clogged up, if you start getting traffic jams in your superhighway Yeah. Then things stop. And then we get these. Yeah, totally. See, I was gonna say, I would take it one step forward after what you said, and I get out my little Louise Hay book and I say, okay, what does the shin mean? What am I missing? What am I not seeing? What am I not feeling? Well, what's missing in my life?'cause I like you, I believe that every dis-ease in the body comes from some sort of emotional suppression that we haven't, felt worked through. And then if we continue not to, then it turns into the disease in the body. Right. Which we're, we don't want people to need to get that far to hear a message. And here's what's really weird, things like fibromyalgia, which is kind of mysterious, painful disease is actually caused by a, there's an MD who's who studied this, is caused by not being willing to feel psychological feelings, and instead creating pain in the body so that you don't have to feel the pain, the emotional pain that you don't want to feel. So that's how smart the brain is it'll find another way to distract from what we have, what we really have to deal with. And it'll distract us even with. Artificial pain. That is so amazing and just so impactful. I love when you can dig in and go further and blow people's minds with a statement like you just made, because it's things like that people need to know. You're not a bad person. You didn't cause this. Outside circumstances, things happen, but now you know that you have a way to release it, so why wouldn't you? Absolutely. Right. What piece of advice would you give to the listeners who they're hearing everything that we're saying, they're getting it, but yet they're still like limiting beliefs? So now is everything that I say, a limiting belief? Like what do you say to that person? To simplify it down so that someone isn't freaking out going, Jesus, what have I just said? Driving down the, you know, down the highway. Well, first I would make it a practical recommendation, in both of my eBooks, which are free. One's called Clear Your Beliefs. The other one's called Clear Your Client's Limiting Beliefs. There's a process in there called Belief Self-Diagnosis, and it's a way to begin to uncover the subconscious beliefs that we have that are driving our life that we're not aware of. So it basically says pick a, pick an area of your life you're having problems with, like finance. And then it says, okay, what do I believe about money? And you allow your subconscious mind to speak using this process. And you write down all the beliefs you have about money. What do I believe about finances? Well write down all those things down. And so you just allow the brain to kind of come to respond to your question of what do I believe about that thing? And then you end up with a list of hundreds of beliefs that you have that are running your life. Money doesn't grow on trees. You have to work really hard to get money. Nobody wants what you're selling. You're in the wrong profession. And then you can start examining them and saying, wow, this stuff is running my life. This is the engine running my life. And some of the beliefs are positive, like. I can make money when I put my mind to it. Great. Okay. You don't need to change that one. That's a good one. Right. Let's clear the negative ones, the things that are holding you back, and then the pos. And then what we do in our process is we, after we clear an old belief, we replace it with a more positive and true belief, more true to your true self. And then that be, that's now running you. So I use the analogy of a garden. I said, if you wanna plant a garden, the first thing you do is you clear the rocks and the weeds from the soil. Because if you throw your seeds, your new beliefs on rocky weedy ground, not much is gonna take. Right. If you clear the soil first, then when you plant your seeds, they will grow and blossom and flower and fruit, right? That's what we need to do in the psyches. We need to clear the rocks and the weeds, and then an affirmation, a positive statement can be planted. But throwing positive statements on old negative beliefs does not work. It doesn't, it's like a bandaid, like you said, I am beautiful. I'm be, well, you know, if you don't believe you're beautiful, you can say it all day long. It's not, it's surface level. It's not getting to that root cause in the subconscious. Even worse than that, when you try to put a positive belief on top of a negative one, it stimulates the negative one to come up and reassert itself. I'm a beautiful person. You are not, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. So, so you get this conflict and whatever you resist persists. Right. Just right. Right, right, right. It just creates more conflict. So think about like, so, oh, I love this. Back to what you said just a moment ago. So all those people that are walking around going, I'm a multimillionaire. I'm making$500,000 a day. It's reiterating, oh, hell no. You are not. Exactly. So it's like n negating themselves. Absolutely. Yeah. That's how the subconscious works, right? Is it wants to stay stable. So you have to clear it completely and multidimensionally, and then you've got open, clear ground. Then you've got rich soil that will support your new beliefs. Oh my gosh, you are amazing. I, I knew you were amazing, but you're more amazing now. I just love this and this kind of work is so important right now, and I love the newness of what you're bringing to the table. Based on everything that's been out there forever and a day. And the openness and accessibility ness that you offer, that you exude, is just fabulous. So I wanna ask you this, we get to the point in the show where I wanna ask one thing about you because we've talked everything about your work and all that good stuff, but there's so much that's behind you that I've read about that is I just love and amazing. And so I would like to ask you, is there one thing that maybe no one knows about you? Oh, there's probably a lot of things that no one knows about me. Are you asking me to reveal something that no one knows about me? Well, it's just a question. No, I mean, you don't have to. But it's just a question. Is there something that no one knows about you that maybe you'd wanna share? Well, unless people have read what I've written extensively, they don't know that at the age of 26 I was shot and, four times in the head by a man who wanted to kill me. And we ended up talking for eight hours after the incident in order to find a way out of the situation. So that's kind of my famous story. It actually has been published. There was a movie made based on that story. So, that's my big story. That's the one that, that most people ask me about. That's a huge story. So do you wanna elaborate a little bit as to, why someone wanted to kill you and why you talked to them for eight hours? How much time do we have? I know, right? Like, where are we at? So I was 26 years old. I was kind of lost after graduating with a degree in Consciousness Studies, in 1975. That'll tell you how old I am. So I'm wandering the country in a, in an RV van and selling objects to stores. Just put it that way. Kind of new age crystals and, feather earrings and weird, weird chip fun. So I was a travel. Warrior on the road, I would stop and help people. I was a good Samaritan. I'd stop and help people if their cars had broken down. So I'm traveling from Las Vegas where I'd spent a couple weeks toward la through the Mojave Desert. And there was a guy whose car had broken down in the middle of the desert about 110 degrees outside, and his hood was up and he was staring into it as if he could figure out what was going on. And so I stopped and I said, you know, can I help you in any way? He said, well, I just put$200 into where she won't start. I don't know what to do. I said, I'm heading into LA If you want to ride, you can put your stuff in my van and we will, I'll take you to la. He went, okay. So he takes his stuff, duffle bags and a suitcase or two and the van's already pretty crowded. Anyway, he ends up traveling with me for three days'cause I'm stopping at stores and, showing my wares. And at night we'd camp out somewhere in, in the boonies. And, I had groan to trust him. I'd sent him on errands with a van and I gave him clothes to wear and kind of cleaned him up a little bit. And then the third night out, I was in the back of the van moving things around in the cabinets'cause it was very crowded and he was in the front of the van, listening to music and suddenly there was an explosion and something hit me in the head. And at first I thought the gas stove near me had exploded and I looked up and the gas stove was intact. Then I looked to my left to the front of the van and he, there he was with a gun pointed at my head. I was a bit shocked, because, I said, are you shooting at me? It's like, it didn't make any sense. Like, here's this guy who I'd been nice to, and before he could answer, he shot again. And I realized he wasn't just warning me, he was gonna kill me. I'm 26 years old. I had studied spirituality, death, and dying psychology, but here I was stuck in a position. I could not move, I could not defend myself. He was 11 feet away with a gun and his hand propped up. I knew I was gonna die. And so at that point, I had to decide what, how do I respond? That's my responsibility, right? My, so I thought, well, if I'm gonna die, I, I certainly didn't expect this, but I don't want to die angry. And I don't want to die, upset. So I started talking to God and I said, I'm coming home. And here I am, this kind of golden light love came pouring through me, into my body. And I'd be, I said, I also don't want to die with anything left over. And by this time he, he'd shot a third time. The second and third bullets missed me by a fraction of an inch. And so I went through my past and I asked for forgiveness for anyone I had hurt, and I forgave all those who had hurt me so I could die clean. And by this time, I'm now floating above my body. I'm looking down at this scene inside a van, kinda like looking into a dollhouse, seeing this scene going on. It was kind of amusing to me, but I was just, I was in the state of golden light and love and, you know, he was included in it. It didn't matter. And then the fourth bullet rang out and my head was suddenly shoved to the side and blood was rushing down all over me. And, but I was back in my body and I didn't understand that because I was supposed to be outta my body. And, but here I am back at my body and there's blood everywhere and I'm checking out. I had studied mime and phys and physiology and neurology and anatomy. So I knew my body very well. I was a dancer. And so I was checking my body. I thought, okay, if the bullet went in through my head, I should be missing something. I should be missing something, mental or physical. And I'm scanning my body and I'm still intact and I don't know what's happened. I realized, well, I don't want to just die this way. I want to at least look my assassin, eyes.'cause I was perpendicular to him. And so I turned, I picked up my head from my shoulder, turned and looked at him, and he freaked out. And he jumped up and he said, why aren't you dead, man? You're supposed to be dead. And I didn't know the answer to that question. And all I could say is, here I am. And he said, I shot you four times, man. I shot you four times. Why aren't you dead? You're supposed to be dead. And then I said, maybe I'm not supposed to die. And he said, yeah, but I shot you, I shot you four times, man. And he is jumping up, looking out the windows. We were in the middle of nowhere. Nobody would've heard the shot so long come to check it out. And so that began a eight hour process of me trying to talk him down from his adrenaline state to, I thought if I could keep him talking, maybe he wouldn't shoot me. I. Just to make a very long story short, we ended up negotiating for all those hours. I was curious about him. I was like a coach. I was asking him questions about his life. How did you decide to do this? Why did you decide to do it now? What was your motivation? I I was gathering information. And we ended up, after a long period of time, coming to an agreement. And the agreement was that I would let him go and he would let me go and I would not report him to the police, and he would never do anything like that again. And we shook on it. I dropped him off, took myself to the hospital where the doctor who was sewing up my scalp said, you're a lucky man. Two bullets bounced off your skull, grazed you. I said, no, I'm, I'm a blessed man. So that began a whole new life for me. I stopped being a salesman on the road enough of that, and I became a headhunter, which is kind of ironic. Don't you think that I had my headhunted and I became a headhunter. That was my first career for 25 years helping corporations find people. Oh, that kind of a headhunter. Yes, right. I immediately thought like bounty hunter. Interesting. I never thought of it that way, but I understand. I went right to Bounty Hunter. Okay. But headhunter, yes. I should have. Like, yes. That is wow. I'm so grateful that you shared that story. I'm grateful that you're here to share that story that is so impactful and powerful. And I would ask this personally, and I always talk about a lot on the podcast. I believe there's a lesson and a blessing in every moment of life. As big or as little as it is. What do you take away as your lesson and your blessing? Well, it ties back to our previous conversation, which is that I went, instead of resisting what was happening, I went into acceptance. I went into a deep state of relaxation and connection to God. And because I was so relaxed, that fourth bullet actually pushed my head over, which allowed the bullet to glance off if I had any resistance to what was happening. If my neck had been tight or my jaw had been tight, if I didn't want to die and, I was trying to prevent this thing from happening, it, the bullet probably would've blown the top of my s skull off. So the lesson in there is experience, your experience as it's happening without resistance, and you will get through it much easier than if you resist. And it might save your life. Absolutely. I would say the blessing is that you're here to share this incredible story with us. I second that. Absolutely. Oh my goodness, lion, that was, you're just amazing. After amazing. After amazingness here, will you share with our listeners where they can best connect with you to learn more, grab your books, and hopefully have a session with you. Absolutely. Lion goodman.com. That's LION. goodman.com and, that has all my books, it has all my coaching information, it has all my articles including this, story. Under the article section, you'll find Lyon's Near Death experience and you, and at the very end of that document, which I recommend it to read, is a link to the video of the short film that was made based on that story that won a best film award at a film festival. So that, that was called the Kindness of Strangers. Beautiful. I love that. And as always, all of Lion's contact information will be over in the show notes@jenniferpilates.com. Thank you so much for being here today, for sharing the depths of your soul, for sharing the depths of your knowledge, and really helping to bring us all into better alignment and to better understanding today. Thank you, Jennifer. It's been a true pleasure. You're a great hostess and I really appreciate being on your show. Thank you so much. Well, everyone, as we say, until next time, may you live an empowered life from within.

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