Heeding the Universe's Call: A Voyage of Healing, Spiritual Alignment and Self-Love with Jae Rae

When the universe sends you a signal, it's time to sit up & listen. That's exactly what we're doing today, with our guiding light Jae Rae by our side, whose journey from an early psychic awakening to supporting her son through autism speaks volumes about the strength we hold within. Together, we explore how facing our truths can lead to profound friendships, self-reliance, & a mastery over the emotions that once held us captive. It's a candid conversation filled with insights that tap into the vibrational energy essential for healing, & the spiritual tools necessary for navigating life's toughest chapters.

Have you ever felt a sense of divine timing in your life, a moment when everything just falls into place? That's the story behind my unexpected meeting with Jae Rae. We explore the importance of honoring our inner selves, the bravery it takes to choose to heal, & the beauty of spiritual growth that blossoms from the mud of our experiences. This is about the wisdom that guides us towards embracing our spirituality & engaging with the world from a place of love & purpose.

We explore the freedom that comes from severing ties with toxic relationships, the courage it takes to heal from narcissistic abuse, & the journey to self-love that redefines our personal narratives. This episode is a roadmap to finding peace, setting boundaries, & discovering the transformative power of aligning with your true self.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:07

Welcome to Empowered Within, a soul-clenching, transformational podcast that will set your soul on fire. Through candid and inspiring conversations, leading experts, celebrities, healers and I share our journeys of how we've overcome challenges to living an empowered life from within. I'm your host, jennifer Pilates. Welcome to another episode of Empowered Within. Hi there and welcome to the show. I am so over the moon excited to have with us today J Ray. So please grab a drink, sit back, because this is going to be an amazing wild ride together.

Speaker 1: 0:49

So let me first tell you a little bit about J Ray. She is known around the world as the psychic to Hollywood, multi-billionaires and mega-celebrities. She is an amazing spiritual healer who is gifted in many spiritual and healing modalities. She is known as a rogue when it comes to spiritual readings using tarot, astrology, automatic writing mediumship and so much more which I can't wait to dive into. She grew up on Staten Island, always knew she had gifts and it wasn't until her son was born with autism and delayed speech that she began to fully utilize her spiritual gifts. J Ray is here to share how we can leave the 3D behind, go above and beyond, releasing our trauma from living a low-vibe life to living a high-vibe life. So excited to have you here, j Ray Welcome. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 1:43

I don't know why. That just got me so emotional when you said that about my son. He's turning 27 and on the 16th so just in three days. So it's kind of crazy that it's been 27 years that I've been utilizing my gift to the highest power, to the highest potential, and ever since then, really making a mark on the world. So thank you for reminding me of that with my bio. Sometimes you need to hear it from another source, right?

Speaker 1: 2:09

Absolutely, and let's talk about how you realize. You've shared with me that, being gifted and being a chosen one, that we have a rather hard life and your wisdom comes through your experiences, which makes you a wounded healer, and I really would love for you to share a bit about your journey, how it began and how you did really go. Oh my gosh, I have gifts.

Speaker 2: 2:31

So I don't really know if it was ever the. I think the moment has always been with me. I've never really remember having distinct memories other than a few, but I've always knew I was different. I probably really started in kindergarten, which a lot of children usually don't realize who they are until they hit some sort of schooling or when they're start to be around their own peers. So when I started to be around my own peers and started realizing very quickly not everybody sees what I'm seeing, hearing what I'm hearing I realized okay, there's something else going on here.

Speaker 2: 3:00

Not really having anyone to go to my mother was. It comes from both sides of my family. But my mother's side of the family they did their own thing. And then my father's side of the family they did their own thing and they both had their own beliefs in this type of world and didn't really know which one I belonged to, but just needed a little bit of help understanding it. My father was probably the first source of energy that I could go to comfortably and let him know that I knew things, felt things he kind of knew right away.

Speaker 2: 3:24

At night time it was hard for me to go to sleep. My mother saw it as a sign of being spoiled and just wanted to be in bed with them, when my father knew that there was something else going on and knew how to ask me the right questions to say what's the matter, what's going on, and I'll explain. This is what happens, this is what I'm hearing, this is what I'm feeling, and I remember there was one particular night I must have been no more than six or seven and my father worked on the docks. Anyway, he worked on the docks and he had just gotten a huge shipment. A lot of stuff was in our basement. There was only a few people that knew about it.

Speaker 2: 3:55

And in the middle of the night I had a out of body experience where I thought we were being robbed and I could hear the men in the house, I could hear the voices, I could hear the front door opening, I could hear the whole thing happening as though it was. And when I got up, I ran to my parents' bedroom and was like daddy, daddy, daddy, somebody was just somebody was robbing the house. My father got up and ran into the living room and was like there's nobody here, baby, there's nobody here. Hours later went back to sleep. My father put me back to bed. Hours later, about two in the morning, men came to the door trying to rob the house, trying to rob the equipment, trying to rob the basement. My uncle and my father we lived in a six over six came downstairs, handled it. It was whatever.

Speaker 2: 4:37

I heard the commotion, heard it again, thought again I was dreaming, went back to sleep to only find out in the morning what had already, what had taken place, because the house looked like it was ransacked, there was a bunch of stuff going on. My mother was, of course, smoking up the kitchen table having a cigarette and they're like what's going on? And I knew that it was about to happen. So I was already living in the future. I already knew it was about to happen, but it was only about, I think. I remember, if I could correctly, my father said it was about eight or nine PM when I had woken up. So it was hours later when they tried to come in the house and tried to rob the house. And that was when my father was like what the hell? So after that it kind of stayed with me and always knew. And every time I got in trouble in school my father always knew there was a reason. So it kind of went from there.

Speaker 2: 5:26

So I would say my father was my first real confidant as far as knowing what was going on, honestly, and I had a rough life with him. He was very rough. It was my father was in and out of prison my whole life. My mother was a very young mother, emotionally unavailable, extremely narcissistic, if you know, you know. So it was very difficult to kind of be the scapegoat which I definitely was in that arena, because my father wasn't there to protect me. So there was a lot of instability, hard to connect, hard to feel safe, hard to feel loved, hard to feel very all those things that come with an unstable environment for most children from the outside. Look great, jen's dad was who he was, mom was mom. Everybody was happy. But in reality I didn't always know what the next day was was going to bring me or what was going to be happening. So it was difficult. But it also taught me about my spidery senses and that's where I think I grew them during that process in my life.

Speaker 2: 6:20

So when I got older and my friends all knew I can do things, as I would say just do your thing, they realized, oh wow, she can predict things. I hate to use the word predict, but she just, I just knew things were going to happen for this. Like we were going out one night I'd be like, no, now's not a good time. They were like why? What's the matter? Got instinct, not a good time. Nine out of percent of the time I was right. Now's not the time to go to Brooklyn. Today's not the night. We do not want to go on 86 Street tonight. We would go to 86 Street anyway, flat tire. There was always something. And they were like, from that point on, they always were like she says we're not going, we're not going, it's the whole crew staying home, we're not going.

Speaker 1: 6:59

Yeah Right, I mean, what a friend to have.

Speaker 2: 7:03

Well, nowadays, my girlfriends really don't like me because when they call me, they know they're going to get the truth. So they're like I just met this night, hang up, don't even, no. And they're like but you didn't know it? Nope, we're not even going to have this conversation. If you want to go have a good time, want to get laid and have fun, go on. More power to you. But if this is the one you're going to marry and have a baby with, the answer is no. So you have to decide which one you, which team, you're going to play on.

Speaker 1: 7:25

I love that my friends are the same way when they call. They're like we, so love and hate your honesty all at the same time. Love and hate it.

Speaker 2: 7:34

It's like they I'm the first person they call, but then they hang up and they're like I shouldn't have a call. I should have just when I made the mistake. Anyway, it would have been so much fun, you know, but you want to delay your timelines? Go right ahead, kiddos, knock yourselves out. So Exactly.

Speaker 1: 7:49

Well over the years. What do you feel? Because it's so powerful and not stressful, but can be very challenging. Right Again, going back to Chiron being the wounded healer over the years, what do you feel is your most impactful piece of wisdom that you have gained through your spiritual journey?

Speaker 2: 8:09

It was just so fun. I was just saying this to my husband this morning. I think my one of my mentors had many One of my mentors, jenna Scaales, a star goddess. She actually had a movie made about her. Laura Dern played her.

Speaker 2: 8:22

She's an astrologer. She looked at me one day and she just she's the one who explained to me that I had the gift to astrology. She could see it literally in my chart and she said to me everything you ever want in your life, jennifer, is within your existing resource. You never have to go outside of your existing resource to find anything Validation, love, abundance, respect, honor. It is all here right now, in your existing resource, and you are your own existing resource. Never, ever, go outside of it.

Speaker 2: 8:55

It stuck with me on every level of my life because every single time I was seeking out of validation from another person, another relationship, a friendship, business, I need ideas, creativity. I always did it the standard way, like everybody else. I'm going to meet somebody. They're going to make me happy. I'm going to get this new business going to make me happy. I'm going to try this new abundance thing. It's going to make me happy. I'm going to try this new haircut. It's going to make me happy. I'm going to do that. I'm going to go with what everybody else is telling me I should do, instead of going with what Jennifer wants to do.

Speaker 2: 9:27

But until you heal you're in a child You're always going to seek outside validation from others before yourself. So that would be the one prime advice. The second would be controlling my emotions. That was from Leona Ganz. When I first started working with her, the first thing she said before we can start anything, because you are a true healer, you must become healed. You are and will always be the Chiron, the wounded healer. In order to do this, you have to learn how to control your emotions. Until you can master that, there will be no working with me. I did not understand. I didn't choose to work with Leona. I didn't go looking for Leona. We stumbled upon each other as life would have it. You stumble upon your healers. You don't go looking for a healer. A healer shows up when you're ready to heal. Her healing modalities was stern, quick advice, and that's what she said to me. She said you and I can not even have a conversation until we understand the importance of controlling your emotions. If you can't do that, there will be no healing to happen, and that was probably the hardest lesson. The third one I would take away would be Alice De Cionis wrote a book.

Speaker 2: 10:43

Amazing author taught me through astrology about the ass of the dragon and the head of the dragon, the north node and the south node of the chart, and she said the ass of you is a cancer. That's your emotions. She said the same thing Until you can get that under control, you're never going to think like a Capricorn. Your goal in life is to think like a Capcom very pragmatic, extremely compartmentalized, and get clear on what you want to do and create boxes. Until you can do that, your emotions are always going to control the outcome of all your situations. Those were the three things it's about moving out of your emotions and getting more into a clear understanding of what your path is and staying on it.

Speaker 2: 11:26

The trick is you have to stay on it. It can't be tricked into getting off of it because the shiny new ball just showed up in your life and you're like what's this? It's a distraction. You have to understand what the difference is. There's a difference between a distraction and a true healing. Where somebody comes into your life, they're meant to heal you through being a mirror? Or are they just strictly a distraction to get you away from the healing, until you get really clear on which one it is? By discernment, by using the word discernment and understanding what discernment is. This is where it becomes tough. This is where people come to me during that time period of their lives when they are sick and tired of the distractions and want to discern between what is a distraction and what is an actual healing happening. A mirror what is the difference? There's a thousand ways of understanding that. But once you understand that you won't be distracted anymore, you'll use these mirrors as a ladder, as a way of stepping up and stepping into your true power. You won't be using it as a way down. You're going to look at it as a way up. But most people get stuck on the ladder. They get stuck on it, they hang off of it and they're like no, I don't want to let go, I'm don't want to let go. The not letting go part is what keeps them stuck. Then they come to me and they go.

Speaker 2: 12:44

I did the work. No, you didn't. You didn't do the work. I know you didn't do the work because you're still here. We're still having the same conversation with a different person, with a different scenario, with a different timeline, with a different year, with a different month. It's all the same. We're just doing this. So no, you haven't. There is a piece here you haven't done. I'm sick and tired of doing the work. All I do is the work, shay. All I'm doing is the work. The work never ends. It doesn't end To the day you die you will heal, do you understand me?

Speaker 2: 13:16

To the day you die your soul. Its job is to constantly evolve, to go to a higher realm, a higher dimension, a higher space. So when incarnation comes, you don't come with a ton of karma, you come with less. You come with drama, you come with charm of life, you come with a whole different world. I think everyone's tired of coming back with karma. I would hope that everyone's tired of that.

Speaker 1: 13:37

Yeah, I would hope at this point like could we please all just let it go.

Speaker 2: 13:41

Let it go already. Yeah, forgive your mother, forgive your father. Let it go Right, like, let it go.

Speaker 1: 13:46

Let it, just let it go.

Speaker 2: 13:48

Yeah, let it go.

Speaker 1: 13:50

One of the things that you say that I love is healing is not a one size fits all, and there's so many different modalities that are out there and I'm wondering if you'll share it, because you even have the J-Ray method.

Speaker 2: 14:03

Yes.

Speaker 1: 14:04

What is it like working with you and what are the different modalities that you yourself have employed for yourself for healing, and is that the same that you use when you're working with your celebrities and all of the people.

Speaker 2: 14:19

Well, it's funny, the J-Ray method has never really been coined until just recently. But there is a method to my madness and there is no rhyme to my reason. So I'm not going to always do for you what I would do for someone else, depending on what your trauma is, depending on what the cycle of your life is going on. Where you're at in your life, especially with your age bracket, there's gonna be different ways that I'm going to handle a 25 year old opposed to a 55 year old, because life experiences have come to play right, but yet the inner child is still the person I'm talking to. So if I'm still talking to the five year old self, even though you're 55, I still have to talk to that five year old because that's what I'm talking to, even though you're 55, I'm talking to your five year old self because that's a point of contention of where you learned a pattern or where something happened in your life that now keeps tripping up and keeps coming back in. So there's really, like I said, there's a method to my madness, but there's no rhyme to my reason. I would say the first thing I like to do is I like to just get a read on you energetically. I just like to look at you and I like to kind of see your vibrational rate. And what is a vibrational rate is a barometer that I have set with myself and my guides to know where you're at. I like to see someone to be at about a seven before I can work with them.

Speaker 2: 15:34

If I'm working with fours or fives, I already know there's way more to do that underwater. So I would have to get them out from under the water, bring them to the surface and then take them the rest of the way. By the time I've reached 50, which I just did I don't want to work with anybody who's fours or fives. I'd rather work with a healer that's willing to do the underwater work, kind of get them to the surface and then bring them the rest of the way, because I've worked with people below the water and that's a hefty energy to hold on to, because you are literally they're anchors to you, so they're holding you back. They're anchors because they hold on to you. I'm a mother, right? So I had that nurturing mother energy. So what do they want to do? They want to hold on to the mother in me, right? They don't want to do the work. They just want to feel safe to make bad choices and bad decisions. So it's like you're constantly having to scold the child.

Speaker 2: 16:25

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 16:26

So, or I have a big masculine energy too. I have a very fatherly take care of you, Don't worry protection energy right as well. So then I get the women that are father wounded and then they hold on to me like a patriarch and a man of like I'm scared, don't let me go, Don't let this happen to me. I'm with a narcissist and I need you to protect me from the narcissist. Instead of them doing the work, I'm doing all the peddling and all the peddling and they're finding it really difficult to do their end because their child in them wants to be all of these things. So when we can get past that surface, then I can kind of get you above. So when the water is no longer here and here, then I can take you the rest of the way and bring you to the level, but I would say between sevens and eights I would like to be working with in a barometer energy. Yeah, Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 17:15

Oh my God, I'm afraid to even ask when I'm at on your barometer.

Speaker 2: 17:21

Well, everybody can sink. Everyone can sink and go. That's why I say it Sometimes with my clients. I see they dropped in vibration when they start going into fear and immediately when they become fearful with me or they're scared to make a move, they're in a moment of fear and I always tell them this is a decimal down, you're just decimal. It's just a decimal. You gotta look at it. As you just turn down the volume a little bit, you can't hear. Turn up that volume and get that inner voice to come back out and shine and say, hey, knock it off. You've done this before. You've done it scared. You've done it every which way. Stop your nonsense. You're being ridiculous and you have to mute out the inner child and raise the voice of the woman who's already, or the man who's already done it and made it happen already. Okay, hold up.

Speaker 1: 18:03

Let me get a tissue box Like yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:06

Yeah, I'm serious. That's what it is Serious.

Speaker 1: 18:09

So, like right now, you're at a six.

Speaker 2: 18:11

So right now, you, right now, jennifer is in a six. You could be in a sixth from because you read something this morning that really triggered you. You could be at a six because the realization of things, right now we're in the middle of Chiron, I mean Jesus, we're in the middle of Pisces season, we're in the middle of two Eclipses and Libra. We are in it, we are in it, we're in the thick of it.

Speaker 1: 18:34

This is we're in the.

Speaker 2: 18:35

Lululand. This is kind of X is coming back X relationships, partnerships, relationships, patterns, people everything is coming back for us to go. Have we healed from this yet? Are we okay with ourselves? Are we good with ourselves? And a lot of times we're not.

Speaker 2: 18:51

We didn't realize that there's still this one little piece that we thought we were good with it, and now we don't know how to receive love. We don't know how to receive admiration. We don't know how to receive criticism. We don't know how to receive constructive criticism. We're being highly triggered right now and we don't know why. Why is because Eclipses are meant to bring in all of the things and I mean all of it at once. It's like an ocean of just shit coming up onto the shore, and we have to now decide what we cleaned up and what we're not willing to clean up. What have we done? What haven't we done? So if people are showing up in your life right now that you haven't heard from since 2015, or maybe even 2002 or 2001,. 99% of the time, it is a fucking pattern in your life that is coming back around again to go. Are we done yet?

Speaker 1: 19:41

Right, I love it.

Speaker 2: 19:42

Are we done yet? And it's your higher self going to the little girl. And you, are we done yet? Cause we're tired, we're exhausted, we're exhausted.

Speaker 1: 19:52

Totally. I feel that I would say about. I looked over. I don't know if you've watched my eyes at about 15 minutes I looked over to see what time it was Like my stomach, my insides, all of a sudden we're getting so jumpy, like. I'm not nervous, but you know, when you're an empath inside, when all of a sudden your stomach's like, and it's like my little inner child is like holy shit, where's this going to go? I'm scared. What is she going to say next? And I'm like it's good, I got you.

Speaker 2: 20:17

It's okay, I got you. Are you taking care of her? Are you letting her know Like you're okay, you're safe, like this is like?

Speaker 1: 20:23

like I'm totally safe, and can we not talk about how we came into one another's lives?

Speaker 2: 20:29

because Well, this would be a fascinating story for me to listen to and engage with, because I think it can go both ways. I mean, I could start it or you could start it, but I think it's fascinating how the universe brings people together on every level, I think you start it because yes, okay, yes you start it.

Speaker 2: 20:48

So way back when I would say probably back in 2017, 2018, I was heavily into Pilates, loving it, enjoying it, doing all the things with it. Hit about 2019, the 2000s, when I was traveling the world with a couple of my celebrity clients, really not able to really concentrate on my physical self, was really, you know, and working really hard as a mother and taking care of my entire family and providing for my entire family. There was a lot of stress, a lot of stuff that I had to take care of, and taking care of me, unfortunately, was not a priority, not as much as I was hoping. 2019 hit menopause kicked in Perry. Menopause was on the rise. It was came in with the gun blazing Around 2019 going to 2020, my body just stuck down.

Speaker 2: 21:30

I was living in New York, it was February 29th, 2020. Something told me get on a plane. Get on a plane, go back to Florida. Don't look back. Whatever. March 5th, covid hits and 2020, and I was like, okay, god got me out literally in the nick of time, because if not, I wouldn't have been able to get on a plane, wouldn't have been able to get back to Florida, wouldn't have been a nightmare. My kids were still there and they weren't kids, they were actual adults at that time, young adults and I said, okay, fine, so I get back.

Speaker 2: 21:56

I wanted to get back into Pilates. My body just wouldn't do it. My body literally shut down. Legs would not work, back wouldn't work and all of a sudden I found myself in the most vicarious position of body just not working, not properly working, and if you know anything about energy and if anybody understands this people understand restful healing. My body went into what's called restful healing, where I was no longer in phytoplight. It gave me an opportunity to literally rest. I didn't know rest, I didn't understand rest. I was in phytoplight my whole life.

Speaker 2: 22:28

That year my son went into an assisted living home, which was huge for me as a mother. He was 23. There's so many things was changing very rapidly and very quickly, but Pilates was always on my mind. I was like if I could just get back to Pilates, I would have to get back to Pilates. I was always having this conversation with my assistant and my administrator. Every time I talked to them, I was like I can't wait to get back into Pilates. Oh God, whatever Hence move forward.

Speaker 2: 22:54

I'm getting married March 30th and I'm moving where he lives. I'm like, as soon as I move in with him, I am starting Pilates. I don't care what is going on, this is what I'm doing. I lost weight, I went on a zephyic. I'm feeling better, my legs are working, I'm fighting flights out. Restful healing is over. Back to Pilates. I'm saying it and saying it and I'm telling Rachel and she's like all right, jen, all right, all right, all right. So six months ago, I don't know what I was doing, but I had seen something of yours. It said Jennifer Pilates. I'm going to go. Of course her name would be Jennifer Pilates. So as there was another little thing in my universe going, it's going to be okay, you'll do Pilates again. Fine, whatever. So then, right as I made the decision to now move here, I said, soon as I get there, I need to find a Pilates studio right away.

Speaker 2: 23:45

So Rachel was literally on the computer the day before going Pilates studios where I'm living blah, blah, blah, and put up the zip code. There's one little place popped up, a few little places popped up, but she just ignored it and didn't think much of it. We got distracted onto the next thing. The next day she gets an email from you, from Jennifer Pilates, and we're on the phone and she goes. I sent an email from this girl named Jennifer Pilates. I went, excuse me, and she goes yeah, jennifer Pilates. I said the Jennifer Pilates, and she goes.

Speaker 2: 24:14

I guess I don't know, but I didn't hit anything. I don't know how she got her. I was Googling, but how would she know to email us? Like I didn't put you on a list, I didn't put you on anything. I don't know how this even happens. And I said you know her back. So she's like she wants to do a podcast with you and I'm like she has a podcast. I'm like, okay, well, whatever, get her on the phone today. So if he's like, really, cause I never take any call, like I am, I am literally the best kept secret in the universe. So now I'm like get her on the phone today. And she's like okay, so three o'clock. We're on the same time zone, thank God, right. So I was like, let's do three o'clock, we get on the call.

Speaker 2: 24:54

And I said you have no idea what I manifest. I literally manifested you, because this is what I've been wanting for the longest time. I want to buy a reformer. I want to put it in that I mean there's a whole, if anybody that knows me knows this Lori, if you're out there, lori was my plagi instructor for years in New York and, trust me, she wished if we could have lived in Florida with me, trust me, by the beach, but she had her own clients and her own people in New York, so anyway. So I was like this is unbelievable. This is my way of knowing I'm on the right path, because this is happening Like there's no question, because we all question is this the right move for me?

Speaker 2: 25:33

Should I be going there? Is this what I want? Is this going to be fruitful? Is this going to be smart of me? Is? Should I be giving up my entire? What should I be doing? Like is this the right move? And it validated probably nine or 10 doubts that I had going on in my head, this ping pong of energy that I was like and Rachel's like. This is your answer. You've been saying I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to move, I want to go here, I want to live with him, I want to go.

Speaker 2: 26:01

You were so certain, but you always have this little like, because the inner child of me has been abandoned so many times that I'm like do I let go of all the security that I have to recreate, or do I? You know, hold on just a little bit. You know what I mean. Maybe keep a conceder, what should I do? And instead it was like no, this is where you're going. So we talked and we had the most amazing conversation, which then you then told me how you found me, because it was just when I say to you talk about transcendence, talk about things, two things coming together perfectly. You can then take it from here. But that's how this whole thing. You emailed me and it freaked me out, because I was like there's no fucking way this woman could know.

Speaker 1: 27:39

And what's even crazier, now that you're saying, the story is that I too was locked down in Florida, so our energies were literally circling one another, and I can definitely tell you, boy, could I have used you, and I know you needed me then.

Speaker 2: 27:52

We needed each other so badly so here we were and we were having a. Really, we would have been two years ago, we would have been number one, we would have been two hot messes hanging out together, which would have been a fun, which would have been great.

Speaker 1: 28:03

Because we were like neighbors. I was in Fort Myers, you were right nearby. I mean, our energies were literally just like circling, circling, circling.

Speaker 2: 28:14

And then and this is why divine timing is real, it's so real and then fast forward.

Speaker 1: 28:19

So there's two things. One thing is I was about a few weeks before we started talking. I used to use my phone all the time to receive messages from God and my angels and something said hey, we've got a message for you. So I was in the kitchen and I was like, I'm going to use my phone like you usually do. So I open up iTunes, I open up my thing and I'm like, ok, what do you need to tell me today? And then I hit shuffle. What comes on, jenny, from the block? I didn't tell you that part before. Wow. So that hit come on. And now the look, I love that song. So I'm like dancing. I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm like having a party in the kitchen, and then fast forward. There were all these little things that kept coming up about Jen, and it was from her new mini movie video to watching that, to then connecting with her on Twitter X, whatever we call it now, and then came out yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 1: 29:13

For that, like 20 years ago, yeah, I've got, I've got, yeah, me too, and then, but I'm back, and then it was like her documentary was coming out Saturday night she's in my Hallmark night Everybody knows me, that knows like Hallmark my thing Saturday night and I heard no, her documentary. Like put it on, watch the documentary.

Speaker 2: 29:32

Oh yes, this is now Right.

Speaker 1: 29:34

So then I get the documentary on and I'm watching it and I'm just like, wow, our lives are so parallel, from her childhood, to what she's been through and I had shared with you. The only the major difference was that I never physically went through with any of the marriages I dodged.

Speaker 2: 29:50

I dodged, she went. She went down the aisle. Yeah, she did, she did the aisle part. But I think a lot of us women not realizing it, though we do give the time which is the most time.

Speaker 1: 30:00

That's what I gave.

Speaker 2: 30:01

I gave time Hi which is really the most precious, the marriages are insignificant. At this point I really I really need to say that out loud, because I think people really get a really bad taste in their mouth about her being married so many times. Let it all go, people. We've given more time to individuals than a walk down the aisle.

Speaker 1: 30:19

Absolutely. I mean, I'm a little envious of the dresses like Hi, I haven't done it.

Speaker 2: 30:24

I have some great parties and, at the end of the day, absolutely yeah. So let's, let's give that kudos to her at this point.

Speaker 1: 30:31

Yeah totally kudos to her, because it was just like I wanted to see what's going to happen next. So, anyways, watch the documentary and by the end of it I am just in awe and I'm sobbing. And now, of course, let's not forget that I'm from Cape Cod. Hi lived in the back bay Boston girl here. So of course I love Ben. And so I'm looking at this and I'm like, wow, exactly what her meaning was was she wanted everyone to know it is possible, Don't give up, move forward.

Speaker 1: 30:58

And I thought, if this isn't a sign, and then I thought this is spectacular and I just felt so good, I just wanted to call her, you know, but I can't. So I go to bed, I am in bed I never had my phone with me and I hear you need to look for a certain individual on social media. And I'm like it was a guy that I'd met, like whatever nine, 10 years ago. And I'm like, is that what? Well, you listen, I look he's never on. He's on. I'm seeing him doing new things, blah, blah, blah. I let all this go. And then the next day I'm telling my girlfriend all about the synchronicity she's like us, a spiritual person with the Jennifer, stuff to the this to the that and and I said I just don't get it, I said, except for I hear the message of don't give up, like your love's coming Right, I'll take that away.

Speaker 1: 31:48

Yeah, I come back into my house, I open up the computer and you're there. I'm not Googling, I'm not doing anything, but you're there and I clicked a link and it took me to an interview talking about how you had been Jennifer, spiritual and continue to be Jennifer's spiritual mentor, spiritual coach. You know you are her go to and I'm like this is insane and I'm like I need to talk to this woman, like we need to talk. Now. Here's the missing piece, people. Here's the Trinity that I didn't know, that you held out on me about. So I know you was J-Ray. I had no idea until today that also your first name is Jennifer. So now we have a Trinity of Jennifer's and I have goosebumps and I'm like are you kidding?

Speaker 1: 32:35

It just keeps getting better by the minute. So there's something so spectacular and so special here, and I can't wait to see how that continues to unfold. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 32:45

Number one just to understanding the story of this is me. Now is really meant to understand the part where you go from not knowing who you are to knowing exactly who you are and why you do what you do. And I think it got lost a little bit in translation with media and things like that, that they weren't seeing the true essence the way you saw it because, remember, you're a high-vibed person. You're a high-vibed person, so you understood right from the jump exactly what this all meant. And for a lot of people that don't get it, will never get it, they will just see it as what is this.

Speaker 2: 33:16

It makes no sense when someone like myself, you, other people who have done the journey of healing through understanding who we are and understand the portions, if not the entirety, of the actual movie, could see from the beginning to the end how she went from not knowing who she was to knowing exactly who she was, to knowing exactly that the inner child in her was riding that bus and was angry at her for abandoning her over and over and over again, to having to apologize to not only herself but to her higher self, her younger self and all in between, so that she could live a more fearless life and a more limitless life.

Speaker 2: 33:53

And if anybody could really take the takeaway from this would be understanding where it came in and what this is about. It really was not about her and Ben's love story, as much as people wished it was. It really had nothing to do with that. It has to do with how she came full circle, with getting back with him, from having knowing him in a time in her life when she did not know who she was, when she put all of her love and energy into another person as a lot of women do let's be honest a lot of women do we put all.

Speaker 2: 34:22

we put all our love and all our time and all our energy into another person, hoping that person will make us happy Right. So we avoid all of our own healing, we avoid all our own triggers, we avoid all the red flags. We can have the biggest bushes of Abraham and we're like trying to spit on it, like go away, go away, you want to put out those fires. Most women, if not all all, have done her journey. They've all lived through her journey. They've all experienced it. We all have as mothers, as sisters, as wives, as daughters. We have lived this journey, right so? But we don't talk about it. Why? Because it lessens us, it cheapens us, it makes us look vulnerable, it makes us look cry, it makes us look mushy, it makes us look like we're not strong, when in all reality, as I told Jay on numerous occasions, the most courageous thing you can do is love again. The most courageous thing you can do in life is to get back up again and try again and do it again. And, yes, so you walk down the aisle of the Milling God Damn Times. Who the hell cares? It was the time you didn't waste knowing this was not the right person. And moving on is where you need to pattern yourself on the back a little bit and be like, ok, didn't get that one right moving on, ok, I mean, at the end of the day, how many of us have been in relationships where we got some really great jewelry, really great takeaways, really great moments, really great everything, but the rest of it not so much. You want to leave that there and I don't want to do that again.

Speaker 2: 35:47

But most of us get caught up in the idea of a person more than the reality of the person. But if we're not in touch with our own reality, we're going to meet someone else who's not in touch with their own reality. So we're going to see a mirror in that person and we're going to either choose our mother or our father in that relationship. That is what we're going to do. So until we hear the mother, father wounds, ok, or past life wounds, even until we really kill those wounds, we're only going to keep meeting versions of them in different ways at different parts of our lives. As we get older, we get a little wiser, but it doesn't necessarily mean we don't have the ability to still make mistakes, right, because we are we still not make the right decisions, and I think in that story of this, is me now.

Speaker 2: 36:30

I think, the takeaway of this entire thing because I watch a little bit of people's idea of it, attitude towards it, and I get a little perturbed in the fact of you're not getting it, because either you haven't experienced it truly or because you genuinely see her now as flawed. As flawed and which, in all reality, everybody is. Even the most perfect diamond is flawed and as much as we want to believe that there's this perfected woman in the world, we are not. We are all a beautiful mosaic of stained glass. We have all of these inconsistencies, even this glass. We have all of these cuts and all of these beautiful crystal lines within us. That makes us who we are. That's why I'm unique to you. You're unique to me, why other people are unique, and this is why we all need each other, because there are portions of you, ms Jennifer Pilates, that I'm going to utilize, based on what you know about health and body and wellness and intuitiveness, and I'm going to teach you about timelines and energy, moving and sources and God and creation and all of the things that's going to get you to understand yourself better, your thoughts, better discernment, better your intuitiveness, better all of it. It's all how it has to work together. So we should be all here lifting everybody up and not bringing everybody down going. Oh, that was the most terrible thing I ever watched. Instead, it should be wow, she's really been through it. Wow, how vulnerable it is for her to put that on screen and on camera and somehow make it into a visualization of her own adaptation of how she views her own healing. Why would nobody want to say kudos to you? Because let me tell you something I could tell you a lot of women that would not be so fucking ballsy, ok that if they had to take out the mug shots of the individuals they've dated, ok, and who they are and how much time they've spent on them almost positive you'd want to close the chapter real quick on that book and nobody look at it and nobody see it and nobody know where you came from and how you got here and what your purpose is.

Speaker 2: 38:36

I have no shame in the game of telling people who I am, what I am, where I came from, how I got here and what the story is, because why should I be ashamed of my story Now? At the end of the day, my story has to change and evolve. As far as what I'm doing about the story, I can't live in the victimhood of that story, right? But this is how it all started. This was the seed, but this is how I grew and this is how it all fanned out. This is how the evergreen grew. This is why it's so lush and so green and so beautiful and looks like a big, beautiful peacock, because I have allowed myself to do that and grow in those areas and those spaces of life.

Speaker 2: 40:02

But it all grew from that story, that story of how I was made by my mother and father and that creation and that time period. That's a reality. But it all grew right, grew love, it grew prosperity, it grew all sorts of things. It allowed me to have three beautiful children. It allowed me to be the healer that I am. I could never be who I am right now if I didn't experience all those things.

Speaker 1: 40:25

Right, and I'm so grateful that you're sharing that, because I want it's so important for people to understand that, like you, like me, none of our lives have been perfect, but it has been perfect. I have always said I am one of a kind original, perfectly imperfect Because I am me. And had it not been for everything that I've been through and what you've been through and Jennifer had been through, we wouldn't be the empowered people that we are today.

Speaker 2: 40:52

Not at all, not at all, not at all. So if you don't get it, then say you don't get it and know that you're not looking deep enough Because you're just looking at the surface level. Because no offense, I really say this in the most loving way there's a part of you that's triggering watching that film. Maybe you're mad at yourself because maybe you haven't done the inner work. Maybe you're watching that because you haven't truly gone through the process and you know there's a lot of things that are very relatable for you in those scenes or maybe in those moments when you're angry. So you're looking at it as the whole thing is garbage. Then you're looking at yourself as garbage, honestly, because that is a reality. Calm down, take a deep breath, see it from the perspective of a healing and not a perspective of what a movie should look like or what this should look like or what that should look like. Step away from it. Have an open view, widen your eyes a little bit, open up your ears, listen to the words of the song, understand where it's all coming from, because, whether you know it or not, to put yourself out there.

Speaker 2: 41:55

I know for myself, for yourself and many other people, it is not an easy thing to do. It's not easy, and a lot of my clients come to me on the DL. Why do you think they come to me on the DL? Because for them to have to say there's something wrong with me. Nobody could know. I cannot work with shame. We're not even going to start in the energy of shame. So I need you to stop with the shame, like everybody has, to stop shaming people for not being perfectly beautiful, aesthetically pleasing, eye pleasing. This that Enough, enough. We are a Pluto and Aquarius. For Christ's sake, people Get it together, like get it together.

Speaker 1: 42:34

Get it together. I love it. Yes, get it together.

Speaker 2: 42:38

Come on, are we serious right now? We think we're not going to be found out. Do you think that everything is perfect? Everything is not what it seems. That's what Aquarius energy is. It's opening up the curtains to the world and saying OK, and Pluto is the planet of transformation. It's coming out of the dark. It is the lotus flower. It's coming from the mud, people, we're all coming from the mud, honey. We're all down there somewhere, as above is, so below. Everybody needs to chill. Take a deep breath.

Speaker 1: 43:06

Everybody does, everyone does. Everyone just needs to chill.

Speaker 2: 43:10

Take a shit and literally get it together, get it together, get it together, get it together. Yes, we're not going to hate on other people. That's ridiculous at this point.

Speaker 1: 43:18

No, it's stupid, absolutely not. No. Life is too precious and if you can't choose someone on, walk on.

Speaker 2: 43:24

Walk on. If you can't do it and you don't understand it, then say I don't get it. Move on Completely. I don't get to convince anybody that I believe in God, that God is my source. God is my source. It's who I talk to, it's who I get my information from, it's how I get downloads, it's how I breathe, it's how I read, it's how I live, it's how I everything, everything I do, is through God. It has nothing to do with me being a gifted person and walking around like I'm some sort of God. I'm not. I'm a conduit to God. I'm only a conduit and I've learned how to use it as a source. I am a source, you're a source. I'm a tool for God. There's 100 sources in the world like different ways to source. It's a tool. I'm a tool for God. That's all. I am just a tool and I use myself effectively and universally for everybody to help them through the process of whatever they have to come from. That is it. But I am not here to convince anybody, especially people that don't believe that you can't be gifted and believe in God, or you can't be gifted without being in a religion, or you can't be gifted if you don't.

Speaker 2: 44:26

There's too many rules put over in Aquarius. We have no rules. There are no rules in how you heal. There are no rules in how you see God. There is no rules. It's only a source and that is love. And if it doesn't have love attached to it then it's not good. And that's the negative energy that a lot of us feel. When something is not done with love, we feel the negativity. I think you can agree with that Because then you know it's not being brought to you with love. It's why it feels off, feels wrong, it doesn't feel right. Then we know it's not being done through love, it's being done through shame or guilt or some other low vibration that happens to be below the solar plexus.

Speaker 1: 45:05

Right, we don't go there. We don't go there, we're only up here. That's it. People, we're high-viving.

Speaker 2: 45:11

That's it. We got to be in the seventh to eighth dimension. At all times, we got to be in the seventh to eight.

Speaker 1: 45:18

Yeah, absolutely, especially if you want to be in our trinity of Jennifer's.

Speaker 2: 45:24

Exactly, only very special people get in there Apparently Jennifer's in and also, too, it's the fact you know so many people don't even understand that name obviously was big in the seventies but in the late sixties. But it's so insane how I've only met other Jennifer's Like. I have another Jennifer now that I'm working with and she's in my brain and she's able to now create the JRM the way I need her to the Jerry method in actual visual form, so you're able to see now visually how I use my energy. That's fabulous and she was able to do that, so that's exciting to do. I'm looking forward to introducing that to the world sooner than later, but God knows, he's still working on it.

Speaker 1: 46:04

Right, exactly, god knows Divine timing, divine timing, yes, I love that, I will talk together.

Speaker 2: 46:09

Yes, so Tell me a little bit about your man.

Speaker 1: 46:15

Are you ready?

Speaker 2: 46:16

Sorry, I just you want me just to call it. Can I just do what I do?

Speaker 1: 46:27

Just do what you do, because that's what you're here for. We said that this podcast is shifting into so much authenticity and I said do it, you do you, baby.

Speaker 2: 46:36

You do you Okay. So what does the nine represent for this person? What do you want me to say in September? What's the number nine mean?

Speaker 1: 46:45

Oh my God, let me pull up my phone. We're talking about the person I think we're talking about Holy mackerel.

Speaker 2: 46:51

Yeah, I just got that. So number nine is it at the most. What do you want me?

Speaker 1: 46:56

to when is my birthday? In May, june, july? So no, his birthday is. Well, that birthday is in. If it's that person, this birthday is in July.

Speaker 2: 47:07

But who's the one in September?

Speaker 1: 47:10

I don't think I know.

Speaker 2: 47:13

What just happened in September Was that the last contact you had with this person? Was it nine months ago? Nine weeks ago, was it?

Speaker 1: 47:22

Oh God, are you talking about a whole other person from my past? I'm like wait what.

Speaker 2: 47:27

Well, you have four. You have four individuals that are floating around you, right? Yeah, four specific spheres, because I can see four spheres around you. Each one has their own bubble, okay, so the one that's holding the number nine, almost like Vanna White, they're holding the number nine above their head. People think that just because I could see energy means that people are dead.

Speaker 1: 47:48

It does not necessarily mean that, oh no not at all.

Speaker 2: 47:52

Yeah, so whatever happened in September with this person, that also has the letter A connected to it.

Speaker 1: 47:57

So whoever's first initial is A, oh, I'm so intrigued now I'm like at a lot You'd see, I'm counting the yeah, yeah. I totally I don't. Now, I'm not even sure I don't know who this person is.

Speaker 2: 48:15

Okay, they're going back again sketching again.

Speaker 1: 48:19

Okay, okay. This is so intriguing, now I need to.

Speaker 2: 48:22

So who's the first initial of an S? Yeah?

Speaker 1: 48:25

I know.

Speaker 2: 48:27

Okay. Okay, that S has something to do with the number nine, okay.

Speaker 1: 48:33

So I don't know. Like I said, nine, oh, maybe it was nine years ago.

Speaker 2: 48:37

Nine years ago, okay that's okay, so this is coming back around again. Okay, and who's the big big letter? Who's the big T, the letter T? Yeah, I Just say yes or no.

Speaker 1: 48:49

We don't have to get into detail. Yeah, I know a T I know it.

Speaker 2: 48:52

Okay, yeah, all right. So is that T also connected to the S into the nine, or is that the same? I would say they're in the same sphere.

Speaker 1: 49:00

They're. I wouldn't call them the same.

Speaker 2: 49:03

Maybe the relationship you had with them were very similar in some way. Oh, was there a theme within the two men? There's a theme. Yes, we have a theme. That's okay. We got a theme.

Speaker 2: 49:16

I know because I know we're dealing with celebrities and stuff like this, so we don't have to get to details, but the reality is this. So we're trying to keep the M in the middle, which is fine, okay. So this is what I'm being told to tell you. So the next three months I'm going to say by the birthday of the one fellow, so I'm going to say by his birthday you have a lot of healing to do and a lot of explaining to do with your inner self and your inner child and your higher self.

Speaker 2: 49:43

If you are going to allow this to pursue and I'm going to say why this is not someone that is here to stay. It's here to remind you that there is a theme that runs within your currents. Okay, so it's about you as the water and think about the theme of the currents that run through you. Okay, the vibration that runs through you is to remind you to raise that vibration up a little bit higher. I'd like to see you in about an 8.5 would be really nice. Okay, we'll get there, because 8.5 is where you find the one. You also don't know this. You cannot find the one with anyone. If you're 7 or below, it's never going to happen.

Speaker 2: 50:28

Plug me in Plug me in, so vibrationally, if you're 7 below, is learning, still learning, valuable essential lessons, themes and patterns within the body, the relationship, the mind, the spirit, the energy. It's kind of where we are still kind of paddle boarding through the waves. So still think about the six of, think about the six of swords through the tarot, the seven, think about six and sevens of the tarot deck, kind of the number if you think about the number, and 10 is the ending. So we, our peak is a 10. We could be at a 10 all day.

Speaker 2: 51:04

God only knows what we can create. So for us to be healthy amount of energy, to really meet someone who's at a beautiful vibrational rate, is you have to get yourself to about an 8.5. To truly commence with someone who is absolutely a person that you can actually be with without the triggers, meaning that they're triggers that are normal and they're condensed and they are your emotions are controlled within the relationship, you can communicate those triggers effectively with your partner without feeling abandoned, without feeling that it's difficult. So where a lot of people get stuck kind of between the seven and eight, they think they found the one between the seven and eight, because the seven and eight is kind of this teetering that happens, and one or the other has to be our higher vibrational rate in order to pull the other one up.

Speaker 1: 51:57

So don't mean to stop you, no, stop me.

Speaker 2: 52:01

This is why I teach.

Speaker 1: 52:02

So the person's birthday who's in July, we're saying, I think this Jennifer needs to get her tail to an 8.5 before July, so that that S of a person and I are supposed to be coming together. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2: 52:24

So why do you think that you can live in the same literally the same city? You can live on the same block and never see each other, because you're not on the same vibrational rate. It happens.

Speaker 1: 52:34

After we met we literally would be going to the same coffee place that people knew us. Our paths never crossed. We're just circling, circling, circling.

Speaker 2: 52:48

But you'll never meet up because you're not on the same vibration.

Speaker 1: 52:52

So, again.

Speaker 2: 52:53

You're saying we're supposed to be. So I'm saying that you, because I'm only dealing with you right now. I can tell you that that's what they're telling me about you. But this doesn't necessarily mean for you guys to be together. It's for you to formulate an understanding of why either you can be together or cannot be together. Does that make sense? Because you're still in the energy of what? If You're kind of still in the hope stage and this is where a lot of women lose themselves is in the hope stage. This is where they kind of get lost and this is where time rapidly, like I told the people, roll, spin that role while they sit in the hope for years and they don't get out of it Because their hope is that their love will be enough to raise the vibration. But you cannot raise another person's vibration with your love. Your love can only raise your own vibration for yourself. Does that make sense? That?

Speaker 2: 53:53

makes 100% sense, so the longer you sit like this, you're holding back your vibration. It doesn't do anything, you're literally on pause. Do you understand that? So you're not giving or receiving, you're on pause, okay. So if you're on pause, that means nobody can see you, you're unavailable. Your light is off. Well, because I've been healing. So, but healing doesn't always necessarily mean you have to turn your light off. You're healing for a reason. The reason is not to heal for yourself, jennifer. The reason is to heal so you can be with a certain person. Healing will never happen that way. It will put you on pause first.

Speaker 2: 54:34

So me saying to you you have to get to an 8.5 is not so you can be with him. It's for you to get yourself to the highest vibration, to meet yourselves, to know why you are not with him or why you haven't been with him, and truly understand the essence of why Getting all those unanswered questions. But right now you're still sitting in your own pause mode. You're sitting in that that vibration of hope. Watch, wait and see. You're like in the three of wands. So you're like in that 3 percentile. You're like a 3 percent right now. You're not even out of six, you're like a three when you're in the hope stage. Okay, so people say to me but Jay, isn't hope what we need? No, we need faith. We don't need hope, we need faith right, and we need to know what faith is. And we need God and we need to know who we are. You're not at the vibrational rate yet to know who you truly are, yet to match someone who can then take you the rest of the way.

Speaker 1: 55:27

Do we think this person is there?

Speaker 2: 55:31

I don't feel they are at all. No, no, that's why I just said it's to make you understand why this hasn't happened yet, because you're still sitting in the hope right, because the synchronicity I didn't even know.

Speaker 1: 55:45

I was still hoping, I thought I was.

Speaker 2: 55:46

Well, you are, because once we start putting together, once we start looking for the signs, the synchronicities and things of that nature of a person that has been already, we were okay. So I'm going to say it like this to you you were already told no, the universe already told you no A hundred times, but because you have this hope and because of this peace in you, that inner child peace of you still wants to be chosen. Keyword chosen.

Speaker 1: 56:15

You want to be chosen.

Speaker 2: 56:18

You're hoping that this person is going to give you that validation. So until that, peace in you heals and you get to an 8.5, the reason to be chosen now is no longer. The reason to be chosen now is based on the fact that you know your exact worth of who and what you are and everything you possess. It's not because something had to fail on his end for him to use you as a default.

Speaker 1: 56:46

Y'all, we're not saying it, but she just freaking laid down the microphone, Holy shit. So that because I'm over here in my head telling you things like yes, and you just yeah, you laid down the gauntlet.

Speaker 2: 57:00

So now, what we have to learn and what your job now, the next three months, missy, is how do I get myself to stop hoping and stay in the energy of what is I?

Speaker 1: 57:10

think I can do that pretty easily, yeah. So what is right now?

Speaker 2: 57:15

If you were to lay down what is right now. What is this? I'm not chosen. I'm not chosen Right, we know this, and it doesn't look like I'm going to be in that sphere, the only way I would be chosen is something happened that made me a default, and what I have to do is get the piece of me that wants to be chosen so badly by anything other than myself out of my system. I got to get that piece out.

Speaker 1: 57:45

That's the last little piece that goes back to the inner child, that goes back to what Jen and I had in common.

Speaker 2: 57:51

We all do as women. We all want to be chosen, whether it be our mother or a father somewhere along the way, and you were not chosen. We were not a priority.

Speaker 1: 58:00

The whole way, period, the whole way. I wasn't chosen. Yes, the whole way.

Speaker 2: 58:04

So the first part of this, as I would tell you, is you have to become your own mother and father. Jennifer, it is probably the most important piece that I learned working with Leona was stop looking at other people, to become your mother and father. You are your own mother and your own father. Hug yourself and love yourself like your mother would you wish your mother would have? And then love and protect yourself and provide for yourself as though your father could have or would have if he could. That's the only way to heal. We're never going to heal by expecting another person to teach us love us. It's not their divine right. It was our parents. It was our parents' divine right to love us the way we were supposed to be loved, and they failed. Leave that where it is. Leave it where it is. Leave it there. It's not someone else's job to do the job of someone who was appointed. God appointed those two individuals to bring us into the world, you into the world, me into the world those two individuals to be their mother and to be the father, and their inability to be so does not leave it up to another individual, who had nothing to do with our conception, to then do that for us and choose us. Thank you, it is our job to choose ourselves, to be our own mother and father and to love ourselves without certainty, 100% of the time.

Speaker 2: 59:28

And this is not about and I know the next question out of people's mouths is but it's not fair. Who the fuck said anything is fair? Let's just say someone who's listening to the podcast is the first thing on their mouth is but it's not fair. Who says life is fair? None of this is fair. It is fair no, fucking fair.

Speaker 2: 59:46

Wait, if the universe is looking at fairness, the universe looks at the law of compensation. That's how it looks at fairness. You will be compensated, jennifer, in some way, shape or form, either through what you do for a living, your purpose, who you are, what you are. You will be compensated appropriately by the universe through the law of compensation due to the fact that you did not have a mother and father that can step in and do their roles, but only you are the one that can do that by being that for yourself, and then the universe compensates you and gives you all the things that you've always needed because you give it to yourself, because, like I said from the beginning of the podcast. You are your existing resource of everything, including the love of a parent. Only you can do that, nobody else. Nobody else could be my mother, nobody else could be my father nor do.

Speaker 2: 1:00:39

I want him to, but, yeah, I always pick the worst versions of them. Oh, it's an echo As-de-dye. Here we go again. We keep picking our parents to be in other partners and they were all the parents. So we're going to have awful partners. So we're going to be the kind of partners for ourselves. We're going to meet better partners because we're not going to allow someone to not love us the way we love ourselves. We're not going to allow someone to disrespect us if we're not disrespecting ourselves.

Speaker 2: 1:01:09

Every single time you allow someone to mistreat you and mistreating does not mean hitting People always think oh, he doesn't hit me, but he ignores you. But she ignores you. She doesn't. Or he doesn't meet your needs at the moment, or they're not setting themselves up for success. They're setting themselves up for failure over the relationship. We have to see all that and be very, very candid and very honest about it. And we don't want to have that conversation with ourselves because if we do, we're not going to like what we get, because our reality is very much skewed by our hope. We sit in hope and use the reality big times. I have to wipe this.

Speaker 1: 1:01:48

The synchronicities going on are so wild when you look at the new healing program that I launched last month or the month before, which is a somatic Pilates healing, and the healing that I have done with working on releasing any parental figure in my world and getting over and actually empowering myself, knowing that I'm a survivor of abuse emotional, mental, psychological abuse All of it, all of it, and I'm not saying you're crying about it, like I used to when my mom was going to show up, when I was, my dad going to show up, and now I'm like, no, there's a line.

Speaker 1: 1:02:29

Now there is a no contact line, there is a healing line. All this has happened. And then to meet you through all of this, it's just the synchronicities just keep coming and to know that and I want to share this with the audience what the takeaways that I'm taking because you're going to hear this so different is that I've been on this right path of healing and releasing the trauma of my toxic family and hear you're saying this is the missing piece. And I've been so everyone. I have been diving into this for so many years, but particularly the last few months. That day rate is literally like okay, but you still got work to do, keep going, keep going. And I appreciate that's amazing. I have such goosebumps, the validation, so all the tears and all the sweat, and I'm sure somebody's like who wants to deal with that. I do, because I feel so much better now that I have released all of my family, that I have, I've embraced myself and I'm loving myself and I think we need to.

Speaker 2: 1:03:34

Really, I think we need to clean up a little bit of the no contact and the releasing portion of things when it comes to our parents, our siblings, our toxic families. At the end of the day, we are not doing it to hurt them or to idolize the pain that they have put us through and maybe even the pain that they're might be going through themselves, because I don't think anybody sets up I don't think any parent sets themselves up and I know this me as a mother sets ourselves up to hurt our children. I think that we are unhealed creatures ourselves and we don't know exactly how to mother and it's always going to be a trial and error, but we do our best to heal from what we do know and start as early as I did in my 30s. So as much as I can say that for me personally, I tried to have a relationship with my unhealed mother and I start saying unhealed mother because I want people to understand there are mothers out there that are truly doing their very best to say I am sorry and to hold themselves accountable enough to be like I don't know exactly what I did, but I do want to say to you I am sorry and I am trying my hardest. Please let me know when I am acting a certain way. And those are called boundaries, and some parents truly respect them and want to learn from them.

Speaker 2: 1:04:49

And then you have portions of mothers or fathers who are truly unhealed, and I had a very unhealed mother, very unhealed mother, a mother who, on accountability, did not fit in the same sphere as her and instead of being accountable, it was harder for it was. She'd rather be harder on me or probably even more abusive the more I brought up things that have happened in the past. So, little by little, we talked less, I did less, because my mother became financially abusive as well. Where she expected to be taken care of financially and many other ways, it was easier for me to not engage. And what do I mean by that? I mean the antagonistic, narcissistic ways that unhealed mothers can do things to trigger their daughters into guilt and shame for them to do the things you need them to do.

Speaker 2: 1:05:41

Whatever that looks like for you, I don't know, but I could tell you numerous accounts for me when it was time before my mother died. It was about two weeks before she passed, it was a year ago, in May, and it was about two weeks before she passed and I had gotten an image of her. Somebody sent me a picture of her from her hospital bed. My mother didn't have an ailment, my mother didn't have a chronic disease, my mother didn't have a diagnosis of dying or anything to that effect. But just looking at that picture, I knew right then and there I was told clearly by not only my inner child but my higher self, were on the same page for the first time and ever was like you are not to go there. You are not to go there, you are not to engage, you are not to participate. This is all a ploy. This picture was sent to you by a third party to get you to feel guilty, to get you to feel bad. And once you go there, the mask will come off, the monster will show up and it is your job to protect yourself from this person. So I looked at my now husband and I said to him what should I do? And he looked at me and he said honey, you already know what to do. I don't look at you any differently if you don't go. And I looked at him and I started crying like a child and I said I cannot go, I cannot be there, I cannot do this again, I cannot do this to myself again. And right at that moment I made a decision to not go.

Speaker 2: 1:07:03

My mother passed two weeks later, in the middle of the night, in her sleep. She passed and at that very moment I felt free. I felt free in a way that I don't think anybody could really understand. Being in those scenarios and those relationships. I know you can understand this that it was the best thing for me and who I am, and for my daughters, because I healed such generational traumas. I have two daughters and a grandson.

Speaker 2: 1:07:29

That I understood by not going did not make me a bad person, it did not make her a bad mother, it didn't make it all. What it did was it neutralized the situation. Finally, because she didn't die in vain and she didn't die with saying her last words of hell or bad things to me, and I didn't die with feeling the pain of her, because she would have used that opportunity to make me feel some type of way, because she doesn't know anything else. She was unhealed. So now, what it did was it neutralized the situation. She got to be released from this comic world of earth.

Speaker 2: 1:08:05

I got to be released from a narcissistic mother who I was continuing to abuse me in every which way possible, and we all got to say our peace without having to say our peace, and that, to me, is something that people don't understand through the process of dealing with parents that are extremely difficult.

Speaker 2: 1:08:26

They have no boundaries, they are abusive, they continue to be abusive, they abuse your mind, your body and your spirit, sometimes your money, finances. They are reckless with their words, they are reckless with their energy and they just seem to think they are entitled to us. And I want to say, anybody who's listening, if you are in the position right now where you are feeling overwhelmed by the idea of having no contact with a parent, I need you to understand that it's got, happens in small steps, that you have to be okay. You have to know that inner child in you is ready, or you're only going to find yourselves in more caca miel, as we say in Spanish, more shit, because once you start that boundary and then you break, it comes the wrath. So you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 1:09:15

Yeah, it comes to wrap. It has to happen.

Speaker 2: 1:09:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then comes the wrath of the abuser. And you have to know that there is a process to all of it and to be patient with yourself, to be kind with yourself during this process and to know that there are nothing bad will come of it other than you finding your peace through the no contact. And don't expect them to all of a sudden decide to heal and become better versions of themselves. If anything, they're going to become like children and have their sporadic moment of realization and tantrums and you have to be ready for that and you have to be understand that it's okay to say no, I choose not to participate in this relationship any longer. It doesn't work for me and it's okay and you'll figure it out. So it's very hard, jennifer. It's not an easy process, but when you can do it and you do it.

Speaker 2: 1:10:13

My mother died. I have come to peace with the relationship with my mother and I have forgiven her way before she passed. I forgave the unhealed version of her a long time ago and I suggested anybody who's holding on to any animosity forgive it, forgive, just forgive. That's all you can do. It's just forgive. She doesn't have to know you forgive her. You don't have to have a long sermon, there doesn't have to be a long standing written letter of seven pages, there does not have to be a long email or a text or a card. Nothing has to happen other than you deciding with yourself and your inner child that you forgive her for all the unhealed versions of her, so that you can let her truly go, because if anything shall happen to her and can happen to her, you will go without any remorse, without any guilt, without any shame, because you know you did the best you can to love her, care for her and take care of her.

Speaker 2: 1:11:09

But it is your job to love and take care of the inner child. That was not. That is your job. That is your position now as a mother to yourself. You must protect that inner child at all costs and that, my dear, is the highest form of self-love that anybody could ever have for themselves. And if you want to ask yourself, how do I get to an 8.5, to a 10? Learn how to love yourself like you are your own mother, and once you do that, you will protect everything about you at all costs, and I mean it. You will, because you will not allow anyone to hurt your child or your fur babies the way you've allowed other people to hurt you? Would you allow someone to promise your fur babies I'm going to come feed you and then not come for a week? No, jennifer, would you allow that? No, would you find that abusive? Absolutely so. Wouldn't it be abusive if someone tells you I'm going to call you and I'm going to make time for you and I'm going to come see you, and never does?

Speaker 1: 1:12:07

Yes.

Speaker 2: 1:12:07

And then you still answer the phone. Who's being abused, no-transcript, and who's not protecting their inner child? I would be Mm-hmm. So who are you gonna meet? Who are you gonna vibrate towards Abusers? Right, right, because you're abandoning yourself, you're abandoning your boundaries, you're abandoning your wants and your needs and you're choosing to allow someone to abuse you. So you're gonna meet abusers and unfortunately, abusers are not in the form of a big ugly monster that raises their hands to you and beats you up.

Speaker 1: 1:12:40

They be very handsome and very lovely. And then?

Speaker 2: 1:12:43

And very charming, yes, and yet not come through. And so the inner child in you is constantly hurting herself and you, as the adult in the relationship between you and your inner child, is allowing it. So every single time that happens, think about your little fur babies and someone just not coming and giving it water, this most simplest thing, water. You will think twice before picking up the phone. That, my dear, is how you get to an 8.5.

Speaker 1: 1:13:13

Yeah, this has been. It has been a very interesting time and, as you said, for everyone out there, none of this happens overnight. I mean, I've gone years with no contact, then contact, no. And it's to me I almost wanna put it in the words of when people say they've tried to stop drinking and then they go have another drink, they're like three times as addictive as they were the first time. That's what doctors say. When you go no contact or you've been abused with a silent treatment and then you go back in, it is, it's so worse and you have to get to that point, yes, where you literally you understand it, everything that J-Rage has said, like you just know, at that point done.

Speaker 1: 1:13:58

I mean, I know, when I said my last goodbyes to the parental figures in my world and I knew it was goodbye, for, like I could feel it, I knew that's what it was.

Speaker 2: 1:14:09

It was a different energy of what you were saying it with. It was a certain energy, a certain certainty. But I also don't want this to also get confused with the fact that a lot of us women get confused with these new terms trauma bonds and soul mates and twin flames and they go through all this little. I'm gonna tell you right now, sweeties, and I need you all to listen to me very, very well A trauma bond is an abusive relationship. It is not meant to grow with that person and become your happily ever after. They are there to abuse you, to learn how not to let yourself be abused.

Speaker 2: 1:14:44

As far as the twin flame theory, let's all debunk it and be over with that already. You are unique and you are a one soul person. God did not make mistakes. He did not split somebody in half. He did not do any of those things. We are snowflake in this world. We are beautifully, brilliantly, all unique and, yes, some of us look like others and some of us can vibe like others and some of us can have the same kind of vibrational rate and some of us can all be together and that's why we congregate together right Through all vibrations, those vibes.

Speaker 2: 1:15:15

But then we also have the quintessential soul mate, and the soul mate does not always have to be another person. It could be an animal, it could be a friendship, it could be a best friend, it could be a parent, it could be so many different things, but a soul mate is there to truly with your soul mate, with you while you're through the process of healing. You think about the word soul and a mate. Mate is also about another person, another being. Your soul is boundless. It's endless. It's going to have a million soul mates before its time here on earth is done, but your first soul mate, your very, very first soul mate, should be God, the universe, however you want to see him to be, and your spirit guides. Those are your soul mates. Those are the ones that watch over you the moment you're born and to the moment you pass. Those are the ones who need to give more energy towards and less energy towards the earth beings that are not respecting our boundaries.

Speaker 2: 1:16:16

There's a lot to be said for this world that we're in right now and what we need to be doing, but if there's one takeaway I can tell everybody, what they need to be doing is recognize the things you're doing to yourself, stop talking about the other people. I am so sick and tired of people pointing at other people, saying because of this, it's you. You are the problem and until you understand that, nothing will change. And until you change, nothing will change. So that's not a conversation I want to have on a weekly basis of why you're still doing the same thing over and over and over again, because that's not getting me to an 8.5. That's keeping me in the force and I'm exhausted, exhausted as a hill on the top.

Speaker 1: 1:16:58

So to raise the vibration, because we did just go down and we promised each other we would go where Spirit wanted us to go today, which we didn't know any of that was gonna happen. We didn't know any of that, we didn't know any of this. So to raise the vibration back up.

Speaker 2: 1:17:14

Whatever, we can go as high as you wanna go, sweetie.

Speaker 1: 1:17:17

Am I coming up to at least a seven now? Are we getting?

Speaker 2: 1:17:20

somewhere you know what you just did, just so you know you just went so deep within and, whether you know it or not, what I just did to you, okay, and you could tell by the monotone and the voice and how I did everything I just cleared you of probably about 25 years of shit.

Speaker 1: 1:17:38

I know. Thank you.

Speaker 2: 1:17:39

So when you wake up tomorrow and you do somatic and you start to move around, you start to feel you're gonna start to cry for no particular reason and you're gonna feel the need to not only cry but cry, almost to the point where it's like it's when I do body work on people it's like I'm done working on them and then all of a sudden they're like why do I feel like I can cry for 10 days straight? Because you need to? That is 10 days, only 10 days, out of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours of abuse that your body took on, that you stuffed and stuffed and stuffed, and stuffed and stuffed. You have to mourn the relationship of what never will be, because you created a relationship, a scenario in your head that you thought was going to happen. You gotta mourn that, gotta let that go. You gotta understand that that person was meant to come into your life to bring you to me and really understand that, really understand that. And if that was the only purpose, then that's the only purpose and let it go. That's wonderful. Yeah, thank you, you know what I'm saying. And you gotta keep breathing through until you start really knocking down those cones and you're like okay, I'm done. I am really, really done.

Speaker 2: 1:18:47

But the fun part about all of this, Jennifer, is when you do get to that rate and you do get to that place and all of these distractions are no longer impeding your vision and you can truly walk around knowing exactly who you are, walking with two soldiers on the right and left of you, arming you with nothing but knowledge and wisdom and discernment and intuitiveness that they're able to see things way before you. That brings you that information with clarity and 100% accuracy. You will not be alone. There will be someone on your path. Just like me, I was alone until 48, sweetie 48, until the met. I met the man that I'm with now and married. I raised three kids alone. I was married when I was 21. I was with them since I was 16 and divorced at 31.

Speaker 2: 1:19:39

Do you don't have to tell me about heartbreak and rollercoaster and emotions and everything else in between? My first child was born with a disability. You don't have to tell me about standing on your knees looking up to God, going why. I understand that process, but I am the happiest I've ever been. You get to this place, you find yourself in this place, but I could never meet a man. At the vibration that this man is at, he looks like every other guy, right, walks like everybody, but it's his soul and his vibration and his spirit that God allowed him to be in my world. For him to even be allowed to orbit my world, he had to have already been someone special.

Speaker 2: 1:20:21

When you know who you are and anyone orbits your world, you will not be questioning whether they're good for you or not. You're going to know that they are good for you. It is your choice. Now you don't have to sit around and wait to be chosen anymore. Right, you don't Excuse me, that's it. That's what they are. They're going to choose you automatically because you choose yourself. It's the greatest love of all people. When Whitney Houston sang the song the greatest love of all, everybody thought it was about another person. Oh, it was about herself.

Speaker 1: 1:20:54

It was about choosing yourself.

Speaker 2: 1:20:55

About herself. Yeah, you know. I mean you have to see, you have to know that. You have to know that you deserve that. We all deserve love. We all deserve to have a person, but it doesn't mean that our life is going to end if we don't Cannot. That's the most despairing thing that we can do. That's the most despairing thing in the world. You are special right now, exactly the way you are, with all the beingness that you are. You're perfect. Exactly the way you are. You are meant to be loved right now, in every sphere of who you are. It doesn't have to be indicative of another person who chooses you or not, whether you're capable or whether you should or shouldn't have that. It's not for someone else to dictate or decide. God already loves you right now, the way you. You have to know that. You just have to know that Everything else will start to make sense. It really will. It'll just all make sense sooner than later.

Speaker 1: 1:21:56

Dear my gosh. This all has made sense, From all the synchronicities to how we got here, to you, me to Jen, to everything. For anyone that doesn't believe in anything, If you don't believe in something after this podcast, I can't help you. I literally can't help you. We cannot help you. We are not your people, we are not your people, no, exactly. So surely there's someone out there who's going to be like well, we hope you guys come back and talk to us after July to see how, where is Jennifer?

Speaker 2: 1:22:28

Well, I have a feeling we'll be doing a lot more of these, for sure, and answering some more questions for people, because I think everybody wants to know what is in store for them, right? Everybody wants to know where can I do better in my life? Right, you know, where can I align better? And I think we all have been in those situations, even being intuitives ourselves, where we sat on the couch or sat on our chair and went how the fuck did I get here? Like, what am I doing and how do I get out of this? And where did I take the wrong turn? Or did I take a right turn, or what the hell is going on? We've all been there. We've all sat there as intuitives.

Speaker 2: 1:23:02

So if you're listening to this, god knows, and you've been following Jennifer Pilates, or even following me, for that matter, at this point in time, please know that you are exactly where you're meant to be and you're meant to hear this message, and you're meant to know that your turn is coming and it's right around the corner of you finding love for yourself. And that's the truth. The moment you fall in love with yourself, someone else can. Simple.

Speaker 1: 1:23:28

That's beautiful. There is nothing more than needs to be said, except for those people who may think that they're an eight or a 10. It would love to connect with you. Or, better yet, because she does have this incredible program coming out, the J-Ray Method who would like to follow you, be on your newsletter. Where's the best place that they can go to connect with you?

Speaker 2: 1:23:48

So they can go right to my website and they can go ahead and sign up right to the J-Ray Method and get on the waiting list, because I already have one. I'm only going to be taking 10 people at a time to work with them. It is a 12 week program because I feel like if you can't get it together in 90 days, then either on the problem or you're the problem. We'll figure that out quickly, because I feel like anybody really can get it together in 90 days. I really do feel that way. I feel like you can get to the root of anything within 90 days, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 1:24:19

You can figure things out enough to know what you need to work on. I am a big component of therapy, so I'd love for you to be working with already, or already have, a therapist. If you do not have a therapist, I am working with an exclusive therapist with the J-Ray Method, who is a licensed mental health specialist psychiatrist, who can help you through the process as well. When I'm not available, because it's not one-on-one coaching, it is a method that I help you facilitate and have a conversation with you once every two weeks where the therapist can then be hold you and hold space for you. In the process of that, I also have beacons which also hold space for you, which also are intuitives that you'll have access to and be able to text, talk to when you're having a day and you want to understand a little bit of your astrology that day, or if it's a good day to get promoted, a good day to get a job or not, whatever. So you have those people on hand. Those are called beacons. Those are people that I have trained and work under me. So this is a very exclusive program. It's not something that I am giving to quote unquote. I want to say the public that way, but you will be vetted as well, meaning that you will have a conversation with me and I will be able to detect whether or not you are where you need to be to even do something like this, because this is real hard work.

Speaker 2: 1:25:32

This is inner work, this is shadow work. This is difficult work. This is not all butterflies and rainbows, this is crying meltdowns. Oh my God, I've got to let this person go. Oh my God, I've got to do it with scary. This is not for the week, jennifer. This is for somebody who has kind of been around the block a little bit kind of gets it. And you have to be spiritually attuned, meaning that you have to know that God is your source always, but there are other realms and other dimensions that we all need to understand and come from and realize and all that good stuff. So this method, like I said, it's extremely exclusive and it's not something that I am going to allow just anybody in, because I want to know that we're all in the same sphere, wanting the same thing for each other, which is you to be healed, and you. It's really about you. It's about what you're willing to do to be healed. I'm only the guide.

Speaker 1: 1:26:25

Sounds amazing and as always, all of Jerry's information will be over in the show notes on JenniferPlattiescom, so we'll have all her links and all that jazz so you can flip over there, click on that, see if you feel like you are up to the challenge of healing. And if you are, then hey, give it a whirl Give it a whirl.

Speaker 1: 1:26:44

So I would love to say, jerry, this has been so much fun, I'm so glad that we were able to make this happen and I am excited to see what is in store for us next.

Speaker 2: 1:26:54

Yes, and thank you, for this is me now, and thank you for JLo, because if it wasn't for her, we would have not connected.

Speaker 1: 1:27:00

So yeah, Absolutely Thank you. Yes, a huge, huge thank you to Jen.

Speaker 2: 1:27:05

Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 1:27:05

Thank you, jlo. We appreciate it so much. Well, as we close out the show today, again I want to say thank you for sharing your energy, for your insights, your journey and being so authentic and vulnerable and holding space for me during moments. I so appreciate that and for all of your energy clearing. Thank you so very much for that.

Speaker 2: 1:27:24

You're very welcome sweetheart, you have a wonderful evening and take care. Talk to you soon.

Speaker 1: 1:27:28

Thank you and, as we say, until next time. May you live an empowered life from within. Thank you.