From Hot Mess to Thriving Fairy Godmother: An Empath's Story

Today's guest is a Former Emotional Hot Mess and World Class Awfulizer to Thriving Fairy Godmother as an Empath!  Jennifer Moore supports other highly sensitive intuitive women to release empathic overwhelm and distress so they can access their inner wisdom and power. Jennifer brings over thirty years of experience to her work where she merges practicality, intuition & skill to offer insight, guidance & emotional freedom to those she serves. 

Jennifer holds a Master’s Degree in Psychology & Religion, is an Accredited Master Trainer for EFT International, founder of the Empathic Mastery Academy, author of Amazon Bestseller Empathic Mastery, host of the Empathic Mastery Show and is the creator of two oracle decks & the photographic Healing Tarot. 

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Welcome to Empowered Within a Soul Quenching transformational podcast that will set your soul on fire through candid and inspiring conversations. Leading experts, celebrities, healers, and I share our journeys of how we've overcome challenges to living an empowered life from within. I'm your host, Jennifer Pilates. Welcome to another episode of Empowered Within. Hi there, and welcome to the show. I am so excited to have Jennifer Elizabeth Moore with us today. Jennifer's mission and passion is to help empaths understand the impact of their sensitivity and to share information and tools to help them shift from psychic overwhelm. To being a thriving light in this amazing world. Jennifer is the author of Multi award-winning Amazon bestseller, empathic Mastery, founder of the Empathic Mastery Academy and host of the Empathic Mastery Podcast. Jennifer is a master trainer for EF F T International and has been a mentor and healer for other highly sensitive empathic women for over three decades. Welcome to the show, Jennifer. Oh, Jennifer, thank you so much. I am so excited to be here. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. It sure has been a journey for us to get here too. You know, it really has for us to get here. The first time we were gonna do the podcast, there were huge tornado warnings where I am, and I felt so terrible that we had to postpone the show. And so this is a long time coming, so I'm so excited to talk everything, empath, sensitivities, and all the good jazz. All the good stuff. Yeah, all the good stuff. So let's talk about, first, I always love to know, how did you determine find out experience that you were an empath? So I was really lucky in that when I was, you know, so when I was in my, like I was 17, 18 years old and I was hanging out with some friends, getting stoned, and this kid looked at me and he said, you're an empath. I'm an empath. You're an empath. And. I somehow just was like, you're right, I am. And this was back in we're talking like the early eighties when nobody was even using that term because at that point in time, the only references to empath had been in science fiction. And you know, the very first reference to empath came from a book, actually a novella, not even a book, but a short story that ended up in a magazine called New Worlds called the story was called The Empath by an. Scottish author named JT McIntosh back in 1956. And then the next reference to empath was in 1968 on Star Trek. The original, you know, the OG Star Trek, where it was this one episode called the Empath, where there was this character named Gem, which happens to be my initials, and, who was an empath who healed Kirk McCoy and Spock. But then after that, There was like no cultural references to being an empath, wasn't a clinical term or anything. And so I just happened to be like kind of in the right place at the right time where this person whose, name was Mace of all things, but where he just was like, you're an empath. I'm an empath. And I was like, you're right. And you know, the, just interestingly, cause I've been really looking at origins of the word, you know, It really kind of broke into mainstream culture and more people started to become aware of it. When Deanna Troy from Star Trek, the next generation showed up and suddenly we had a character that was an empath who was, you know, and where people were starting to go, oh, that's what it means to be an empath. But I was really lucky because I kind of knew the term and realized that I fit into that. I had many of the characteristics. When I was like 17, 18 years old and I've met so many people who do, did who don't necessarily know that's what they are, who don't necessarily realize it or who think that, you know, it's just part of science fiction. And where I'll start talking with them and I'm like, do you experience this, and this? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, you might wanna. You might be an empath here. which actually leads me to be, to actually just answering a question that I'm imagining you might ask, which is what's the definition of empath? Because I think that the word at this point in time has become so popular. One of the. The jokes as empath is the new black. It's like everybody calls himself an empath. Everybody defines it. But the thing is it's not, there's no common definition for it necessarily. So, I mean, there's a sort of a cultural understanding of it, but there isn't necessarily like a, this is what an empath is. So for me, an empath is a. Is a living being. It could be a cat, a dog, a horse, a human being, but it's a living being who's picking up the thoughts, feelings, energy, and sensations from the world. Now, many empaths are gonna be picking it up from the world around them, but some are picking it up from the world, like much further away from them. Some people are picking it up from across the planet. Some people, you know, beings are picking it up. From even within sort of the galactic system, and some people are picking it up from the past, some people can be picking it up only from the present. Some people can also be picking things up or sensing things coming from the future. But what makes an empath different than just your average psychic or intuitive? Or medium is that where a psychic and intuitive and even a medium all have extra sensory perception that allows them to pick up paranormal information and they know that they're picking up paranormal information. The thing is, there's an understanding of this is, you know, that's not mine. That's coming to me from some kind of outside source. Empaths process information as if it's their own. And so the challenge is that when an empath is picking up, The energy, the thoughts, the feelings, the sensations from around them. They feel it as if it's their own. So for example, you know, a psychic could walk into a room where there had been a really big conflict or issue coming up, and the psyche would be like, wow, there is some really funky energy in here. There is like something really, wow. I sense a lot of anger in here. The empath would walk into the room and go, why do I feel so weird? Why do I feel so angry? And that's the challenge, and that's the thing, which is one of the reasons why I'm kind of on a mission to talk about this, because if you are picking up. All the thoughts, feelings, energy and sensations, and processing it as if it's your own. A lot of times you think that the problem is internal when really the problem is about what you are taking on from outside that you need to let go of, right? Which is always such a challenge, right? It's such a journey being an empath. Yes. Such a journey being an empath, such a journey. Yeah. I mean, I've heard so many empass refer to it as, you know, talking about it as a curse. Because they can't turn it off. They don't know how to, you know, stop taking on all of the fields and, you know, it's stop the world. I just wanna get off. No, I remember. Years ago when I would say, yeah, it's a blessing and a curse. And that has changed dramatically into, oh, this is my superpower. Yes, exactly. Exactly. This is you don't mess with me. Yeah. But many of us go through that. You know, at first it's a curse. Then it becomes a blessing and a curse, and then eventually it can become our superpower. But it's really, learning how to navigate it is such an incredibly important part of this. It really is. And, okay, so I've gotta ask this one question. Okay. You talk about how you pulled yourself out of the empathic whirlpool. Yes. What was that? Tell me about this. so my, you know, I would say the first like 25, even like 28, 30 years of my life, were waking up every day feeling like outta control, outta sorts, not really knowing what was gonna be happening, feeling like. Amplified feeling like extra blue, extra fearful, extra, not usually extra angry, mostly extra terrified or extra sad, and just sort of this quality of like just feeling this sort of sense of like uneasiness, just constant uneasiness, constant state of just kind of being like just like hyper-vigilant, like rabbit in the environment. Just kind of being like, what's going on? What's happening? Where is this? And it took a number of years for me to understand, you know, and I'll actually, I'll say that even though I knew I was an empath at a very early age, like 17 years old, I knew I was an empath. I did not understand. What it meant to be an empath? I didn't understand that being an empath was the reason why I was feeling so anxious. I was feeling so sad. I was feeling so depressed all the time. I didn't understand that. That was why I would suddenly feel completely outta sorts for no reason. Like I knew that I was an empath, but I didn't understand that being an empath meant that I was constantly being pulled by all of the energy and all of the emotions and all of the stuff. That was going on in the world around me. And it wasn't until I had this amazing therapist who I worked with for seven years, and she really helped me to grow up. Like she really helped me to become an adult. And one of the things that she kept on helping me to discover was when I would come to her in a state and I would be like all discombobulated and upset and distressed, what she would help me to realize was that, Probably about nine times out of 10. It was after an encounter with a situation or a person who was going through something really rough and I had taken it on, and when I started to understand how often my feelings were, Not just mine, but were being amplified by other people's feelings and other cer and other circumstances. I mean, that was just a complete game changer because sort of, you know, drowning in the emotional and empathic whirlpool, meant that I just, I never knew what end was up. And I, and that meant like some days I could be like, Okay, I'm just gonna go to the grocery store. Other days it would I don't even, I would be so spacey and out of it and disoriented. Like even just driving was difficult. getting on the subway was difficult. Going to like doing things was difficult. And some of the ways that it manifested in terms of behavior was that I struggled with chronic. Time management issues and being chronically late for pretty much everything because I was always just trying to protect myself and avoid, I, I was, I needed a lot more sleep than most people and so I was constantly oversleeping in the mornings and I also was soothing with. mostly sugar, but using food as a way to try to self-regulate as well as actually for a period of time, cigarettes, even trying to self-regulate with all of that. And so I was doing all kinds of things to try to protect myself from the energy of the world because I didn't understand that was what was going on for me. So I hope that was a, that was a. Juicy enough answers. Absolutely. Yeah. And you led me into, I do wanna talk about, and I actually thought about this morning and it wasn't something that I had, on our little roadmap, I say I keep a roadmap around Uhhuh. yeah. cuz I thought, oh, that's right. She talked about that she was a sugar addict. I gotta ask her about this. Yeah. Because I'm curious. because I, you know, I, we're all, I mean, empaths generally have a lot of empathic friends and it's interesting to see like what each person's vice is. Yes. yes. And so I wanna know about your journey with sugar and how you have overcome or where you're at now with sugar. I, so I am incredibly grateful to be able to say that sugar and I have a, you know, like we've got sort of a peaceful treaty between us at this point in time. And I am not in a love-hate relationship with it anymore. You know, I come from a long line of high strung, highly sensitive people. I, I call them world, you know, world-class authorizers. And so I grew up with a mother with a sugar addiction. And when I was a child, I had no idea what I was even looking at. But it wasn't until I came into my adult years and I realized that it's not normal to lock up candy like that. It's not normal to hide candy. that it's not normal to. Pour candy and I grew up with somebody who would hide candy. Who would buy candy and then hide it from the rest of us, and who was very controlling about sugar and very controlling with it, which of course meant that because it was something that was like the forbidden fruit. Of course, it was the thing that I loved, but also I really do believe that there are some of us who just, we respond to sugar more intensely than other people do. I mean, for me, when I was consuming processed sugar, I would go through I would be blissed. Out after having it for about an hour and a half. Unfortunately, after that, then what would happen was I would experience like the sugar blues. I would experience the crash. I would find myself just, I. You know, descending. And I really believe that is partially just due to the nature of the way sugar works in blood sugar. And, you know, I don't, I have a body that is more sensitive to certain things, including, Insulin and processing sugar. And so I don't proc, I don't burn sugar fast, so I would get, you know, so I would end up with like blood sugar, just sort of like staying in my body and I would just end up feeling really. Off, I would feel really strange. And the thing is, you know, you've got the hormonal aspects of like your body processing sugar and blood sugar, but then you've also got the, sort of the biological, sort of the flora and the fauna, but the flora that's in our gut that's deeply impacted by sugar as well. Because when you're eating a lot of sugar and carbohydrates, you're feeding the bad bugs in your gut and you end up with. Gut dysbiosis. And so I was, so, and the interesting thing, and I'm imagining you've had these conversations before about the brain, the gut-brain link. Yes. And connection. And so, you know, the problem for me was that sugar consumption was causing, was corrupting my gut. And because it was corrupting my gut, there is an as above, so below connection where it was also deeply impacting my mental process, my thoughts, my feelings, all that was going on in my brain. And for me, sugar is something where it's one is too many and a thousand is gonna, is never gonna be enough. And where there are some people who I sincerely believe who can. Live with moderation, who really are like, they can mo they can just do something in moderation. For me, sugar is a substance that I just have to abstain from that I, you know, processed sugar is something I have to abstain from. I will sometimes have a little bit of honey. I'll sometimes have a little bit of coconut nectar, maybe a little bit of maple syrup or something. But mostly I'll use like stevia or monk fruit to sweeten things at this point because, My system is just so sensitive to sugar that, it just throws me into a tizzy. And the problem for me, if I do consume sugar, is that it sets off a cascade of cravings that is just not worth it because then I'm just gonna be like, white knuckling my way through. yeah, no, you're not gonna eat that again. and so, Many years ago, the first time I discovered that sugar was a drug for some of us, and that, you know, the only way to basically get over it is to stop consuming. It was back in 1986 and then I, and I was abstinent from sugar for about nine years and then I sort of slowly picked it back up and it was interesting because it wasn't as bad. I didn't have as. Bad, the emotional dips, because I wasn't consuming it in the same quantity that I was when I was younger, but it was causing inflammation. It was causing my body. My body just was not happy. And so I gave it up again in 2003, and so, oh my God, I've been abs. I've abstained from processed sugar for the last 20 years. God bless you. Yeah, you might be my hero. Yeah, I, and I will just say that there's a really big, in my personal opinion, there's a really big difference between, abstaining from processed sugar and deprivation. And, you know, I never gave up until in ironically, I did not give up chocolate. I would eat very high quality, like dark chocolate stuff that's sweetened with all, you know, like natural sweeteners and things like that. And I'll be honest, like some sugars, some chocolates just had a super low quantity of like organic cane sugar in it. But ironically, I no longer consume very much chocolate at all because as I've gotten older, my sensitivity to caffeine has gone like through the roof. Oh yeah. And so I can't tolerate chocolate because of the caffeine in it. So I can have a teeny, tiny little bit of chocolate on very rare occasion. But I didn't, that was one thing when I gave up sugar, I was like, you know, you're gonna, you'll pry the chocolate out of my cold dead hands. that was a separate thing. But, you know, giving up sugar. Giving up sugar is, has been, for me, a really, it was a total game changer because it allowed me more ability, like when I'm eating sugar, the all bets are off for emotional regulation, it's all the emotional intensity just amplifies, and I'm just in this kind of Like pendulum swinging up, down, sideways, whirlpool of crazy. But when I'm not eating sugar, it's like the moods just aren't amplified as much. It's almost like for me, sugar is an emotional and mental amplifier. And a psychic distorter. And so it's like information comes in, but it's not accurate. It's like I see and I see everything through a glass darkly. So, and I've heard that from lots of people that yeah, if your diet is full of processed foods and junk food and this, that, and the other thing, like your intuitive abilities are not clear. Yeah. Not there, not clear. Like it's, and I've tested, cleared it and it's true. it's just, it's not clear. But when, you know, and I'm, and I do definitely like in 80 20, like I am not perfect and you know, people know my vice is an loid. Like that is my calming grounding. Don't touch my OIDs Moment. Yeah. But, you know, yeah. when you're a hot mess, like you, everything's off and then imagine everything is off. If you're off, then everything is amplified and that's just not the way you wanna live. And for some people it may not be sugar, it may be dairy, it may be dairy, it may be gluten, It may be alcohol, it may be cigarettes, it may be binge watching Netflix all the time. You know, it's like, All of us, your mileage will vary. It also, it can even be things like, you know, the wiring in your house and the elec Oh, electromagnetic frequencies. Absolutely. I had a friend, actually, who was living in Florida, about 10 years ago, moved into this apartment with really wonky wiring she was experiencing. Physical pain constantly in her body and was like mentally, just like she, and I'd known her before she was living in the house, and then when she like lost. It was like, she just Like she just unraveled mentally and physically because of the wiring in her apartment. And when she moved out of this like really wonky wiring place and moved into a more sort of grounded, stable apartment, or I think it was a bungalow. All of a sudden it was like, The person like sh like the normal person was back and the cra you know, just all of that intensity subsided. So, you know, that's the other thing. It's like as highly sensitive. That's the thing about being an empath, is that for most of us, not only are we, em, you know, if you're an sort of energetic psychic intuit, You know, having the extrasensory perception slide of being an empath. Not only that, but most of us are also highly sensitive to our environment. we're as sensitive to chemicals. We're sensitive to fragrances. We're sensitive to food, we're sensitive to electromagnetic frequencies. We're sensitive to wifi, we're sensitive to solar flares. I have a client who. Anytime. There's a lot of solar activity. She's always leaving me a boxer message going, why do I feel so weird? She's oh, there's solar flares, and you know, we, so, so yeah. It can be anything. Anything. Oh, absolutely. And I'm the solar flare girl. Yeah. Like I, and particularly when I lived in Arizona, I was so rooted into the earth. I knew well in advance. Of any earthquake activity, any of that. And now since I've been over here in Florida, it's, I don't get that as much, but I get all sorts of other weird, not weird, but just interesting. Yeah. Earthly things. But the, oh, the geo storms. Oh. I immediately look like I'm probably seven months pregnant. And so while, no, and for me, it always happens two days prior. Before it actually comes. So I'm always like calling all my friends like, Hey, heads up. yeah, I can't put my jeans on. There's a big geo storm coming. and it's so when we talk about empaths and we, and here we are making light of this and someone's listening going, how are you guys making light of this? No, we've had our moments. We've had our moments, we've definitely had our moments. We've, well, and I mean, what is it? It's a sort of you know, if you can't cry, if you can't, if you know, if if you can't laugh about it, you're gonna cry. You know? And I just think I don't know, if you've had your moments, I, we've earned the right to laugh about this abs so freaking lutely. Yes. So I wanna talk about, a few practices Yeah. That maybe we can help empath along their healing journey as far as. Clearing, releasing, protecting, cuz I know that's super huge in your book, but I also really want your take on the difference between protecting and releasing from a place of empowerment. Versus fear because in my early empathic years it was so freaking fears, right? Yeah. Like I had, I was covered in crystals and monitoring everything I could and everything freaked me out. And the more that I was like that, The morgue shit came to me. Ding, ding. You get the prize. Exactly. you know what's amazing is that I literally recorded a, I recorded a TikTok video yesterday about protection as an empath and about that, sort of like talking about do you protect from a place of, so here's the bottom line from my perspective. You know, it's I'm sure most of your audience is very familiar with the concepts of law of attraction and the where we direct our attention is what we attract and what we manifest. if you focus on something, that's what amplifies, if you don't focus on something, it tends to just kind of fall off and sort of like by neglect it just, You know, if you take a plant and you leave it in a corner and you don't water it at all, it's just gonna die. It's but what you water is gonna grow. And so when it comes to protection, When we focus on the things we don't want, we're still focusing on the things we don't want. And so we are going to be constantly hyper vigilantly looking for the things that we're afraid of and terrified of. And so, for example, you know, I was having a conversation with one of my amazing mentors, this woman, Joanna Hunter, who is this incredible. Spiritual teacher outta Scotland. And Joanna and I were having a conversation a while ago about just like people who really focus on like dark, so you know, entities and you know, the darkness and the, you know, like all of this. And it's yeah, you focus on that's what you're gonna attract. That is what is going to keep on amplifying. So my sense of it is instead of focusing on what you don't want, what we wanna be focusing on is the. Qualities and the frequencies that we do want because when we are, you know, from my perspective, protection is a two-part deal. It's an energetic thing that has to do with sort of creating the filters and the shields and sort of calibrating our energy system to attract. The frequencies we desire as opposed to trying to repel the frequencies we don't want. Because anytime we're trying to push something away or repel it, we're engaging with it. And protection is really, in many ways, is about not engaging with the stuff. Like really just being like, this are my boundaries. You know? No. you're not my circus. You're not my monkeys. I'm not doing this thing. and so what we wanna be focusing on is the frequencies of what we do desire, what we do want to call in. But then there's also the second part of protection, which is just the strategic side of it, which is all about making deliberate conscious choices about how we live in the world and not putting ourselves in, in, you know, in difficult situations or in harm's way, having boundaries saying no. I don't have the energy to come over to your house and take care of, you know, and listen to you whine about your ex-husband for three hours right now. I am, you know, at the end of a, the, a long week, I'm not going to go to the grocery store at five 30 in the evening when everybody just got their paycheck and everybody's in the grocery store. you know, I'm not going to go to, I'm not going to ever again go to Universal Studios, during. Spring break. Oh my God. When it is crowded as all get go and, no. You know, there's things I'm going to be mindful of in terms of my strategic boundaries and protection because in order to really be, to be protected, we need to do it from a place of, i, I believe, like sovereignty. Consciousness, deliberateness and empowerment. And so a lot of it is, I think, ultimately comes down to giving ourselves permission to say no. Standing in that place of recognizing and recognizing what's ours, what's not ours, but also. What, like what really is our job and not taking on the jobs that are not because of the fear of, you know, hurting other people's feelings. are people pleasing stuff coming out? All of the things that can come up for us around well, I can't possibly say no to that because that might hurt that person's feelings. And instead just really standing in that st in that strength of I am not aligned with this. Not only does it not serve me to not do this, but also it does not serve the world for me to do something I'm not aligned with because then I'm actually taking up the space where something better could have filled it in and somebody would've gotten more of what they needed than what I, in my sort of resentful half-assed attempt could possibly give. And so for me, there's another part of it, which is, You know, as an empath we're so often concerned about the care and the feeding and the way that the world is being nurtured and nourished and loved, that we will sometimes be like, I'll throw myself under the bus, you know, for the, for these other people or for this other situation. But actually whenever we do that, we are not helping because what we're doing is we're contributing less than energy to a situation that needs. All hands on deck and if we're really not into it, I don't care how much you try to call it in or fake it, you're not gonna be as good at delivering what needs to be delivered and serve and offering the service that is needed then if you were actually in alignment with it. No, I think that was great. And I love, you know, in the beginning you were talking about, and in my head, what you're speaking of is, Really common sense things. Yeah. If you really don't like to be around people, universal is not your place for you. Now. You're not. No. Now, it could be a motive of both. Yes. Fearing I don't wanna be around all those people. But the reality is you don't like people that much, so you don't need to be there. So there's that essence of being able to remove the, I don't wanna be around all those people. Well, the real, you know, you just. It's okay. You don't, it's have to, I don't like, like this. I don't like this. Yes. I don't like to go to many concerts, you know? I mean, it's like my husband and I are actually, I actually was like, I we're gonna go see Rob Robert Plant and Allison Krause this summer because I really wanna see that. But most of the time I'm yeah, no, not really that interested. Don't wanna be around the crowds. And it's not because I'm coming from a place of fear, it's just that it's too overstimulating. There's. Too many people. It's just, it's it's not my idea of fun. And there's a big difference between, this is just not, there's a big difference between, it's not for me and I'm scared of it. And I do think that there's this incredibly fine dance between, you know, like when are we avoiding life out of fear where we just need to feel the fear and do it anyway. And when is. And when is it really like? Yeah, no, this is not aligned for me. This is not the right place like you were talking about, before we got on. you were talking about when you had that just sort of gut feeling about, your mom and being in a location and where you're just kinda And that's not fear, that's just that yeah, no, not. Quite right, and I've had the experience and since you've read the book, you know the story about I crashed my car because I did not listen to my gut instincts, and I overrode my instincts because a friend was relying on me to get her to the airport. And considering the circumstances, I actually think like I probably would've ended up doing it again anyway, because she would've just been like absolutely left with she would've been. Like left, like she would've been left up the creek without a paddle because it was like I was taking her to the airport at six o'clock in the morning on a Saturday. So I, it wasn't like anybody else was gonna be suddenly able to like rally if I just was like, I had a premonition. Something really bad is gonna happen at four o'clock in the morning. I can't come get you and drive you to the airport. I just did what I needed to do there. But, I knew, like I had just had this awful feeling and I got her to the airport. But on my way back when the sun was starting to come up and everything had a layer of water over the ice, I just like sl, I hit black ice and skidded into a telephone pole and totaled a car. and so, you know, that's the irony is sometimes even if you feel the fear and you get the hunch, you still may choose to do something because it's like, it's sort of, It's about consequence, it's about choice, you know, and that's a whole other thing that I really feel pretty strongly about is that just because, you know, I think we often confuse choice for consequence. that somehow, I think many of us sort of think that like choice. It's if we have a choice, it means that, that there's a good choice and a bad choice. Sometimes it's like there's a, you could do this or you could do this. both of them are gonna have consequences. Both of them are going to be like, neither of them are exactly what you want, but one of them is more what you want. And so sometimes I think that claiming our choice. And just saying, you know, this isn't perfect for me, but I choose to do this. And like in that particular case, it wasn't perfect for me to get in a car at six o'clock in the morning and drive my friend to the airport, and total my car, but the consequences would've been the loss of a friendship. Because I mean, I mean, we probably would've patched it up, but the consequences would've been that I would've left her, like she probably would've not been able to get to the airplane airport, not being able to get on her flight. She probably would've lost money. there would've been a whole bunch of other things that happened. I totaled the car. I ended up getting ano another car. I was fine. You know, I was fine. Yeah. And sometimes it's just like you said, you. Sometimes things happen so that you can get the lesson and the blessing out of it. Exactly. there was a lesson I didn't listen to myself. And the blessing is that I know. Next time. Damn, my intuition is good. And I got a new car outta the, and you got a new car. I mean, as well as I ended up, you know, it led me into doing healing work. It led me to seeing a chiropractor and getting, and working on adjusting my back. And, you know, when I was a child I had a very slight curvature of, you know, a, you know, like a very mild curvature of my spine and. Interestingly, I would not actually be surprised if all of the chiropractic and, adjustments that I did when I was in my early twenties after a car accident, cuz I had a couple car accidents. Like nobody, no chiropractor, no physical person has ever commented about my having a curvature or having any kind of like scoliosis as an adult. And so, I haven't, I'm actually just putting this together now, but I wouldn't even be surprised if, because of the accident and all of the chiropractic adjustments that we actually kind of corrected my spine. Because never have has I, after adolescence and after. After that experience, those experiences in my like early twenties and Earl to mid, you know, to early thirties when I was going through a series of car accidents and needing to get chiropractic. It was almost like the car accidents led me to the medicine I needed. I mean, I just recently got bitten by Atic again, and so I. And I, a friend mentioned a supplement called Zeolites that I was aware of and I'd been u I've used in the past but hadn't for many years. And I was like, oh, I just got bin by a tick. I just took some doxycycline. I think I'm gonna take some zeolites. And so I started taking the zeolites and within one day my brain, like the brain fog just went. And I felt like a better person. If I hadn't been bitten by the tick, I wouldn't have realized that this supplement was something that my body really needed. So sometimes even the thing that seems like, oh, this is an awful thing, ultimately leads it, it holds a gift inside of its hands. That is exactly what we need. Absolutely. I always say that if you can take a moment and take a step back, you can look at how is this happening for me? What am I learning and what is my blessing here out of all of this? Yeah. And it's just taking that moment and it's not gonna be in the middle of it. It might not be for a week, a month, a year later, and you'll be like, oh, that's why that happened. I get it now. Yeah. Yeah. If there were three tips that you could give to our amazing, empathic, highly sensitive community today to employ, to help navigate this amazing, I'm gonna call it beautiful world that we're transitioning in right now, where we. Don't want to gaslight ourselves into unicorns, rainbows, and lollipops. Thank you. but I also don't wanna go down the rabbit hole of, oh my God, all my food is poisoned, and what am I gonna eat? And I can't drink and I can't do the. How do we stay in that middle lane? Because I know this is, how do we stay in that middle lane? It's very challenging for so many of us right now. I agree. And you know, I really, I mean, this is one of the questions I've been asking my entire life is how do we maintain that spiritual connection without falling into, you know, rainbows and unicorns and spiritual bypassing? and on the other side, how do we. Honor the suffering and the misery that's happening on the planet without succumbing to it and getting sucked into the quagmire of pain. I really, personally, I'm really aware of the fact that it's there's you know, I. There's that, that the divine world that I really believe we are as a species is sending into something greater. And then there's the epidemic of fear that is underneath it. And so, First off, what I would say is, you know, there's the three, the five steps of empathic mastery, which is recognize, release, protect, connect, and act. Recognize starts with recognizing what we are and honoring what our limits are, as well as our gifts are, and so, And also recognizing when we are feeling out of sorts. And so for example, if we recognize, so just recognizing our emotions. And so for example, if you notice that you're starting to get brought into the fear, if you're starting to sink down into it, first off, If you are at all like me, you got a mind that's really good at telling stories. Oh, and what I need to do is if I start going down the rabbit hole of fear, it's never about being in the moment. It's always about projecting into the future. It's always about what I am afraid will happen, not about what's going on. And so for me, When I can recognize that I am picking up on or feeling fear, what I will do is first off, I put my hands over my heart and I just breathe and I bring myself back into the moment. I'm like, everything is okay right now. I've got a roof over my head right now. I've got clothing on my body right now. I have clean water to drink right now. I am connected to the Earth right now. Right now it's okay. And then I don't know what's, and then I might even tell myself, I have no idea what's gonna happen in the future, but right now I'm okay. So let's just breathe and then what I will do is I will ask myself the question. Is this mine? And most of the time the answer is some of it is yours. Some of it is not yours, like a yes and once I get that answer, I will then ask a second question, which is, what's mine? What's not mine? And when I get that answer, I'll usually be like, oh yeah, you're experiencing this fear because you just watched the news and it just, you know, reminded you of the time that like, it in the case of like where you experienced a hurricane, you watched the news about a weather event coming, it's gonna activate some fear from the past. So when we recognize that, you know, this is my trigger and it's my job to dismantle the charge, it's whole from the, that is still being held from the past, that is still impacting me. Now that's my job. But the other stuff, that's not my job. And so I live by the saying, I've already said it. Already in this interview, but I live by the Polish proverb, not my circus, not my monkeys. And so I'll just remind myself, you know what? Not my circus, not my monkeys. This is not my job. And then what I do is I breathe into my heart, hold my hands over my heart. I breathe into my heart, and as I exhale, I release my hands and I say, I send this back to where it belongs. I send this back to where it belongs. And then, What I like to do if we're talking about, so first we recognize, then we release, and then what I like to do is I like to breathe in divine light. I call on my guides and angels. I call in the light of divine source. I breathe in love, like I really focus into the heart and focus on that universal currency of or current of love that is everywhere on this planet because as. A species, we tend to focus on the dark story. We tend to focus on the negative. We tend to focus on the hard stuff, but there is so much joy, so much delight, so much pleasure, and so much love that is all over this planet too. We can tune into that instead. So I turn my frequency towards love. Com love, appreciation and gratitude and calling in that light, calling in that divine connection. And so then what I do is I breathe in that divine connection. I draw the energy of the earth up into my body, feel my connection to the earth and draw the energy of the earth up and draw the energy of that divine, heavenly wisdom down and just breathe into that light within my whole being. And then exhaling that around me into a, just this, like cocoon, this ball of just pure love and pure light all around me. And this is this, you know, recognize, release, and then protect and connect. that's what it's all about for me. So hopefully that was, Beautiful. Clear enough and understandable. Absolutely. It was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Jennifer, thank you. You are so welcome. Well, you and I, we talked pre and I said, oh my gosh, I could talk to you. We could talk for hours. Absolutely. Because we are New England, new Englanders. We are. Exactly. we are both, I don't wanna call us X Massachusetts. yeah. But we're we both come from mass, so, well, I don't know. I mean, you know, no offense to anybody who's living in mass, we could say we're recovering mass holes, we're recovering mass holes, and you just never know which one of us may be back there soon enough. Yeah. No, I mean, I. Feel pretty clear that this is, you know, Maine. I'm very grateful that Maine will have me and that, you know, Maine has sort of welcomed me in with open arms and embraced me. It's, it is a really wonderful place to be. Oh, I cannot wait for us to sit and have a little tea. Yes. One day, hopefully soon. That will be wonderful. Well, Jennifer, we are at this time in the show where I ask this one question. Okay. What is one thing. That maybe no one knows about Jennifer. Oh, good lord. I, you know, I am such an open book. I'm not sure there's anything that no one knows. If I don't know it, I'm so I'll just tell you a weird thing because, I'll tell you a weird thing because I really can't think of anything that fits into that category, cuz honestly, I'm like, I am just not a secretive person. Like I, if I know it, somebody else is gonna know it. But a weird thing is I am missing on my right hand. I don't really have a knuckle on my baby finger. You don't, I don't, where is it? Don't have a knuckle. and the first time I discovered it, I was doing a drawing. of my hand and I drew a picture of a woman with her hand in like this with three knuckles, and my art teacher looked at me and said, why does she only have three knuckles? And I said, because there are only three knuckles. And he said, no, there aren't. And he throws his hand out and shows me his four knuckles. And then I'm like, no, there aren't. Yes, there are. And I throw up my hand and he's oh my God, you only have three knuckles. So I have three knuckles on my right hand. It, which is just, it's just a very bizarre little, it's so, you know, it's not a secret, but it is kind of a very bizarre little quirk about me. I love that. yeah, I love that. You know, people always their minds go to very different places and I love to see what they're gonna bring out. And I think that's so cool that you just shared that. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there'll be someone else out there in the world who also only has three knuckles who would love to write in and chat about him. Yes, exactly. Yes. Yes. And I will also say that my guilty pleasure through the entire, like the height of the pandemic pre, you know, you know, like just like when it was just really crazy. my was, was watching The Good Witch. that was my guilty pleasure. I love to watch The Good Witch, so, gosh, I miss that show. I do too. I was really bummed when they st when they decided to discontinue it. It was so sweet. The, the, I've been watching ghosts, the American version of ghosts, which they, you know, lately with Rose MacGyver and that's very sweet. It's not the same, but it's got a similar sweetness to it. It's similar sweetness. Oh, that's wonderful. Jennifer, will you share with our community where they can best connect with you and perhaps continue the conversation? Absolutely. Okay. So if you would actually like to get, you know, get my ebook, it's like the empathic safety ebook and just finding calm in the eye of the storm. I always forget the exact title of it. Just jump on over to empathic sensitivity.com and that's gonna take you into my world. It will give you access to my free Facebook group and all kinds of other, resources and things like that. And if you wanna get a copy of the book, Which right here, go to empathic mastery book.com if you wanna listen to the podcast, empathic mastery show.com. If you want to learn about doing work with me in a group, there's the empathic mastery academy.com. And for all of it, just head on over to empathic mastery.com and there is a section called Work With Me if you are interested in talking about going deeper in this work. Thank you for that, Jennifer. And I will say thank you. Re I have read the book not once. Much twice. and it is highlighted and there's little, you know, little rabbit ears on that. It really is an incredible book for anyone who is empathic. You are highly sensitive. it really is quite the Bible and you have incredible affirmations and meditations in there. So I really encourage everyone, if you're an empath or highly sensitive, it's really something that you wanna have on your bookshelf for sure. Oh, thank you. thank you. And I also, So have a kit, I have a gift in there that is called the Empathic Safety Kit, which we have just rebuilt and set up on the, on our learning platform. So it's spiffy now. It's really gorgeous. It's not just a landing page on a website, it's actually like a course. and, it where there are actual recordings of meditations, where there's tapon videos, where there's just all kinds of additional support. So, I love it. Great. Well, everyone needs to head over there and know that all of Jennifer's information, her links everything to get in touch with her will be over in the show notes on jennifer pilates.com as we are closing out this most amazing show. Jennifer, what is one lasting piece of inspiration you'd like to leave with us today? I want to quote, there's a Saint Julian of Norwich said, had a set, you know, created a chant. all will be well. All will be well. All manner of things will be well. And I just really think that as empass we get, we can get so caught up in the fear of the world that we forget the true nature of who we are. We are cells in the body of this earth, and we are sparks in the fire of the divine and we are part of something. This human experience is 1%. This human experience is like little, you know, we are just like the little tiny, if we understood what we really were, we wouldn't be scared the way we are. We are scared because we are part, we believe in the illusion of this, that the earth plane is all there is. And this is just, this is like the beginning. It's the tiniest tip of the iceberg. And all will be well. All will be well. All manner of things will be well. Absolutely beautiful. Thank you for that, Jennifer. That was beautiful. Oh, you're so welcome. Thank you for today for sharing your incredible, beautiful light, your authenticness just showing up with your heart and really, truly stepping out for every empath around the world. I thank you for all of us. Thank you. Oh, Jennifer, thank you so, so much for having me. It has been such a pleasure. Thank you. Well, as we say, until next time, may you live an empowered life from within. Thank you so much for tuning into another episode. 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