Empowered Within with Jennifer Pilates

Beyond the Secret: Manifesting, Mindset and the Power of Fun with Dr. Travis Fox

June 21, 2022 Dr. Travis Fox Season 6 Episode 66
Empowered Within with Jennifer Pilates
Beyond the Secret: Manifesting, Mindset and the Power of Fun with Dr. Travis Fox
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Today's episode takes us on an inner journey defining where we are in life, to learning how to manifest through the "secret" fun! You'll want to listen right through the end where Dr.Travis opens up about his secrets to living life as an adventure, manifesting and learning why fun is so important in life!
 Dr. Travis Fox is an Actor, Producer, Director, Author & Keynote Speaker. He's a 5-Time EMMY Award Nominated & winner, over 25 Telly awards for production, with most recently Co-producing & Co-Starring, in "Beyond the Secret" the long awaited sequel to "The Secret" as well as, "How thoughts become things." Dr. Travis has over 30 years of experience as a speaker & teacher, with over 14,000+ hrs on stages around the globe.  Beyond the Secret: Manifesting, Mindset & the Power of Fun with Travis Fox.

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Welcome to empowered within a soul glinting transformational podcasts that will set your soul on fire through candid and inspiring conversations. Leading experts, celebrities, healers, and I share our journeys of how we've overcome challenges to living an empowered life from within I'm your host, Jennifer Pilates. Welcome to another episode of empowered within. Hello everyone. And welcome to the show I am honored to have with us today, Dr. Travis Fox and actor producer, director, author, and keynote speaker. He's a five time Emmy award nominated and winner over 25 telly awards for production with the most recently co-producing and co-starring in beyond the secret, the long awaited sequel to the secret, as well as how thoughts become things. Dr. Travis has over 30 years of experience as a speaker teacher with over 14,000 hours on stage around the globe. Welcome to the show. Well, thank you. And as always, as I said before, every time I hear that intro, I'm like, are they talking about me and me? Yes. That's my current goal. Thanks for going to be able to show coming. I want to know how did it all begin for you? Did you wake up one day and go, I think I'm gonna work on manifest. You know, the no I'm, uh, I'm the proverbial heroes, reluctant journey guy. Um, believe it or not online, my life has been fairly eclectic. Ma I have a mother who was a model and an actress, and the father was a fighter pilot. And I always remind people, if you ever saw the original movie top gun, way back in the day in the eighties, it wasn't like that. It was more like that. So I grew up by hemispheric. I have the ultra creative from my mother from the, arts side, but I have the logic from my father who was, you know, masters in engineering, fighter, pilot, et cetera, and kind of put the two together. And that becomes a whole meat. However, I grew up, uh, the first part of my life in Japan and Germany because of both of their careers. And when I was five, my father put a golf club in my hand while we're a brief stint in Florida and, uh, took off and golf and I were just naturally good friends. And it was also a way for my father and I to relate. Most of my high school career was focused on. Yes, I got into modeling and acting when I was nine years old because of my mom's influence. And I said, why not? Um, meanwhile, it was all to support what I thought was going to be my golf career. And this show is a perfect commentary for this. And there's that age old thing that says, you know, this is my plan. I've got my life planned out. This is all blueprinted it's done. And universities tell you what, we've got a different interesting eventually over here and it's going to be a right turn Clyde and I right. Turned. And so I became a father, a first-time father at the time when I was 17 and 18. And I went into first year university and I always tell people what makes me a great head coach is I was a headcase first. I had a complete emotional breakdown. Uh, really had no clue what heartbreak. It really felt like I was trained from the golf world. Uh, and you know, one of the persons that's influenced my career, who I got to be in the film lit up beyond the secret, which is Dr. Dennis Waitley. And the psychology of winning was really kind of. What my psych work was about, but it was all focused on golf. It wasn't focused on my emotional development or who I am versus who I thought I was. And then I met my mentor and I realized I'm playing golf for my dad, playing for golf for all the wrong reasons. I like it still good at it. Had a great career with it, but didn't love it. But that's when my path changed and realized, oh, Hey, 80 gets what you're really going to be over here as a teacher trader producer, that's what you do best. So let's move in this direction and I didn't realize it. Jennifer, you'll get this. The other influence on my life besides Dr. Dennis Waitley was PT, Barnum of Barnum and Bailey circus. I was fascinated by how this guy didn't have the internet Keck. Didn't have cell phones, everything that we have nowadays built 110 year legacy. And it just captivated me. I thought, well, that's a really interesting way to approach it. And from there when I realized what my real purpose and passion was in. All of that PT, Barnum influence has been really influenced my career for the last 31 years. That's how I arrive on your show. Wow. That is an incredible transformational story. Wow. Okay. So are you still playing golf? We must. I do not only do I play golf, but I still coach, um, over in, uh, lower Utah, some of the golf teams, I work with some of the junior players and work with the junior teams. You know, obviously I don't charge them. I'm not interested in their money. I'm interested in, can we take these philosophies? Because my doctoral dissertation was actually written about golf and it was written on the pain of spending 20 years of my life, focused on this experience and the psychological and emotional structure of it. Only to have it on rapid. Now, people have this experience every day. It doesn't have to be in sports, but the lessons I learned from golf still applied to this day. And so I take to the kids and I say, not only can we're working on your game, but we're going to teach you how to manage your golf game, which is really mask way of managing themselves. And they become these life lessons. And it really has become this for me. It's a passion work that I love to do to this day. And a matter of fact, in, uh, late 2021, I'll be over at the Santa Barbara celebrity classic, which benefits junior golf, because the whole concept of me. If I had learned some of the things that I learned credit given to Dr. Dennis way, the credit given to PT, Barnum, and all the other great mentors I had during my teenage here. But if I had really learned who I was and how to do address me and do address the trauma and address the false beliefs and the self-hypnosis I was doing earlier. Well, you know what? It could have been a different experience. Not that my experience has been bad, don't get me wrong, but it really became the impetus and driving force for what I've been doing for the last 30 years is to help people go, wait a minute. The ultimate journey starts here, not here. And we've been taught in a very unique way. And you would know this as well. We've all been taught this thing that we really don't pay attention to called mind body spirit. But if you listen to the sequence of that, Jennifer, here's the problem. We rarely get past. It's our own trap doors. We set it up. So to ask mine to solve itself truly becomes a definition of insanity and it became the backbone for all of the work that I've done over the years, which is called the ECE formula, the emotional compulsion formula, where emotionally compels you and then your body viscerally feels it. So now you're vibrating naturally from the emotion that you've created, because that's the start point and your subconscious will automatically start to reorganize itself through neuroplasticity and then bang how you see the world, how you manifest it to the world, how you experience the world changes automatically. And now we're not in this constant paralysis by analysis and our wizard brain trying to figure out the whole thing. And while you wake up and you're 70 years old and go, I missed the whole ride. So that's really been the impetus for the work. And again, if I hadn't gone through the golf experience, you know, those years I would have never stumbled into it. But as people say, well, Travis, you know, you've been in self-transformation entrepreneurial world for 30 years. Yeah. But that, wasn't my. But it was my plan. I just was self hypnotized. So it was really become an impetus for me to get the educational system to shift, especially in America to shift out of this test, taking per tax dollars as a way of measuring education. You know, to me, I don't understand what you know, our kids are coming out on a three time father now, grandfather. Congratulations. Thank you. Hopefully that makes me a guilt. We'll see. But I always say it's funny. You come out a high yield, highly educated, but life stupid. Well then what's the point of going through all of this, you know, 12 years of education, plus for me university and whatever your post-graduate work is going to be. What's the point. Now there's certain careers that require that, but let's be candid. Most of it, we learned way back in elementary school and then we spend most of our twenties and thirties in that hypnosis of those programs. And then we wake up around 40, 45 and. What's the meaning of my life, Jennifer, what am I really doing here? People call that a midlife crisis. I go about, I call that a midlife, a popper, tunity, you call it whatever you want, but I'm like that pattern really needs to abate. If humanity, especially now in today's times is going to finally evolve, whether it's vibratory, emotionally, intellectually, or most importantly, collectively, but we finally realized, Hey guys, um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there are things out there that are far more powerful than this little thing up here. And we can all start with, you know, how the world's changed over the last call it two years for round. How something that it's intentionally small has affected every single human on this planet in nanoseconds compared to our time sequence. But that to me was the ultimate wake up call of going. Yeah, family. If we don't wake up soon, you know, mother nature has a nice way of saying you saw what it did to the dinosaurs. You better wise up kids. So to me, I look at it as a midlife opportunity. I love that opportunity awakening. I think that's great. So for our listeners who might be like you and I, and we'll say in our forties, and they're like, wow, that sounds like me. How does someone start? If they're ready to have this opportunity, this awakening, where do they start from? For me, what we do is we invite them to take an adventure. And when people hear that they go, well, I don't have time for that. I'm like, but your whole life's an adventure. What do you mean? You don't have time for that? That's a wizard answer. That's a mind talking to me too, which I know. Okay, we got it. We get it around that. The best way I advise people. Let me ask yourself this question. So all of your listeners I've ever been listening to Jennifer show right now, it's really straightforward. If you only have 30 days left to live, would you be doing any part of the life that you currently have right now at all? And if any part of your answer is no, then you honestly need to take a look at yourself and ask the toughest questions. How come I'm continuing to do this? And whom am I doing it for? IEB playing golf for my father as an example. And more importantly, if you only have 30 days left to live, what is the first emotion that comes up for you that you can grab onto and go, ah, that feels like something I'm willing to explore. I may understand how, and if you did, would you do it anyways? That's the adventure, but what's the feeling I want to feel, because again, if you've ever been someone who's taken the journey, I mean the great journey when they go beyond you, don't hear them talking about all the things that we value in today's society as success. It's always the top three it's family travel. And I wish I had explored all the things that I really want to do explore, but I wasted too much. Well, we know this cognitively and yet we sit around and we say, no, no, we're awoke, we're awakened. We know you're not calmed down. There's no such thing as a woken until we leave. It's an opportunity to continue to awake. And if you approach it from the adventure point of view, then that little kid in you that you stuffed down long, long, long time ago under the guidance of being an adult is been waiting for you all along. It doesn't have to be this big traumatic experience. You don't have to go through, you know, sitting in kumbaya, if you want to, those are polar extremes. Or how about we just ask ourselves a question. If I had 30 days left to live, would I be doing anything? If the answer is no change right now, it's going to scare the bejesus out of you. I get it. But here's the thing that will help you right off the box. That's something we teach over in the quest is, fear is just excitement without breathing. Identically the emotions feel the same, but fear is this wizard mind. Excitement is you, the architect, you're being you, your soul, your cheat, whatever words you want to put on it. I'm not here to tell you what to call it, but that part of you, that really is the one taking the adventure. In this thing, we call a spacesuit called Travis or Jennifer in this particular case and the rest of the audience. And when you look at it from an adventure point view, It's in that what we all really, really, really, really want, because when we're sitting around the water cooler, I'm gonna go, Hey, Jennifer, you know, um, I got this stock and I did this and I bought 40 houses and I'm dating all these guys or all these girls, and I've done all this stuff. And I bought these cards. Yeah, that's the, that's the top level stuff that our egoic wizard mind wants to impress people with as a version of success. But if you realize those are the stories, they're the adventures. They're Hey, I caught this fish out in the middle of nowhere and we were all together and it has nothing to do with material success. It has to do with the physical, emotional slash slash experience. Those are the stories we tell, but we don't give ourselves enough stories because we're too busy making a living. I don't get making a living. I've never understood it. You know, I've had money, I've lost money. I've had my loss money and yes, having money is better than not. I get it. But isn't that the adventure too, because money's there. And now more than ever as much as every government on this planet has been printing money. Like it's falling out of the sky. It's there. Relax. The question is. Are you there or are you still up here? And it's okay if you are, we all do it. The question is, do you have the blueprint to unwind this and do it in a way that actually doesn't keep sticking you in the past of what you've already experienced and that's where the track lives right there. So the first question is, are you ready to go back to an adventure? You have 30 days left to live. Would you be, do anything you doing in your life right now? And be part of the answer is no, let's change it. And let's connect with the first emotion that comes up because that's most likely where the disconnect has been is the emotional structure within you that says you want to go on a bench. Let's go to Africa, let's climb Kilimanjaro. Let's go surfing. Let's do a bungee jump because the end result for every single one of us on this planet is the same. We broken down. The question is, do we really live? And that quotes the great Alan Watts quote, life doesn't define death. Death defines our life because we're all going to face that. And I know that's a somber experience if we're talking about empowerment, but that is the empowerment, but we're so scared to look at it and we do everything we can to stuff it down. Well, when we're stuffing those things down, no different than a big fishing net, it stuffs all the other emotions down. And next thing you know, we're walking zombie yet. We're walking around thinking that we're educated, we're intelligent, we're awake, which is a clear sign self included that we're going to be structuring this illusion called self hypnosis. And we hypnotize ourselves to bleak things. We know we don't really believe in and we know we really don't want, and we know we really don't want to do what we do it anyways. And you guys think I'm not saying like, at least I know I'm not. So I don't know if that's any better, but at least I know it. But the one element that I think makes manifesting work and I talk about this immensely, all the teachers do, and we're adamant about it is people talk about the law of above. Family. If I could be so bold and to have a little bit of credibility to talk about this, it's not abundance. As you're defining it here, abundance in your brain is going to be wealth success and the ability to travel and you want freedom. And those are great. Don't get me wrong. But the real law of abundance is fun because no one needs to teach you how to have fun. You can never run out of it. It's on demand 24 hours a day, and it costs you zero. But one thing, a choice. So when you start looking at it from a fun perspective, everything's fun. How can I make it fun? Even if it sucks, then there are things that suck, but you can make them fun because if you could hypnotize yourself to do things every single day that you don't want to do, don't like to do never wish you had to do. You can clearly do that when you put banks, play the emotion of I'm going to have fun with this thing. And when you have fun, it's infectious people go. I want to do that. Great. Now you don't have to sell. You don't have to pitch you on to tell your value. You don't have to, you know, give a one-time offer. Those are all great sales tactics. They're really fun, but let's cut the crap. If you're having fun, people will join you. If that's what they want to experience. If they want to fun, then you don't want to be around them anyways, because they don't want to have fun. It's really that simple. So shift your law of abundance from manifesting wealth into the world. Dah, dah, dah, that's a mind thing. You remember the universe can give us not about money. That's a manmade creation, but it asks you if you're a vibratory really vibing with the adventure called life, which the easiest word we use in the English language is fun. And when you shift your law of abundance, that I can have fun at any given moment about any given thing about even person I meet you become not just empowered. You become powerful. Wow. Oh, M G I mean, hello? Yeah. Mike job right there. Okay. Well, podcasts over. No, I'll see you later. Oh, so that was super powerful. Cause I will say the one, the first thing that came up for me was adventure. Like I've been feeling like I want an RV. I want to get on the road and keep doing my podcast all over, which is it's in the works now. But when he said that, I was like, yeah, let's go to Africa. Oh no, we're going to Africa next year, 2022. Again, you get it in 2019. You know, you you've heard me here. Hear my story. I'm not a mountain climber. I don't like cold weather. I suck in cold weather. I turned into a big crybaby victim. This sucks because I've done my time, you know, back east. And I froze my butt off. I lived in Europe, rose my butt up. I'm not a good, I'm up 90 degrees. I'm happy, you know, below zero, not a happy camper. So what we did was we said, wait a minute. What if we got, what if we went to Columbia? And my buddy and I, we summited Kilimanjaro. I was 48 years old. I've never climbed a mountain in my life bar. You know, a couple thousand feet here and there go to Denver, 5,000 people, big deal. This is the seventh policy mountain in the world, 19,341 feet above sea level and four ecosystems and six days of one of the best adventures of my life and something that I still talk about to this day of all of the experiences that happened on the mountain. And here's the irony, Jennifer. It wasn't like we were sitting, having this great dialogue like you and I are having now on the show. You're not talking, you're focused on wait a minute, we're back to it breathing because you can't freaking breathe. So believe me, all of your attention brings you present. Cause if you don't breathe this little thing called fight or flight kicks in, you think about it. You could die on the mountain because it happens every single day. You think about what am I doing up here every day? That you have held onto emotionally, physically at the cellular level, the vibratory level comes up and the beauty is Mount Kilimanjaro is an amazing queen of Africa. She ain't going to move. She's just going to sit there and dead silence very much. Like the university goes, are you ready? And we're way. Cause you're just another grain of sand, of a grain of sand, a grain of sand of a billion others that she's endured over time. And it's this beautiful, effortless power that she represents of. You can keep beating your head against a wall if you want Fox, but it's still going to be a fricking wall. Even though you keep thinking it's going to be a door. It's not why don't we step back and just own it. And she allows you to drain it out in the beautiful majesty that she is. And it changed my life, changed my life again. So I, when I say adventure and you talk about RV, I spent the better part of my career on. I grew up in buses. The buses are normal to me. So I would say to you, when you say it's in the works, my first response is Jennifer. It's only going to work when you stop waiting for it to work, get in the RV and go get it. That's the adventure. And that's the part where we go. Yeah, but it's scary. Or I don't know. I gotta get all these things in order. You're always gonna have something to get in order. Knock it off. Is it fun? Yes or no. Does it make you want to go? Ooh, I need to check my breathing because I'm excited, but I'm masking it as fear because I'm trying to control the adventure. The word adventure in and of itself says going into the unknown. It is the proverbial hero's journey. We're all on. And we're playing this out all the time. The question is, are you planning an adventure you want to play, or are you forcing yourself into the, you know, the dark night of the soul, where you continue to manifest and go over and over and battle yourself and believe me, I'm a master of battling myself. It took me years and I'm still on that journey. Don't be fooled. I tell people, look, if you think I'm a bloke, you're dreaming. I have yet to meet an old person. I mean, people are on that path, but we all get awoken when we leave this planet. And that's part of our journey, but that's part of the adventure too. So we shift our law of abundance to wealth, money, success. Which you can see a lot of people still struggle with that. And it's why we did the sequel to go. Ah, there's a couple things we need to tell you about it, that we didn't tell you about that you probably should know, but it's shifting to fun when you shift the fun, no different than the show. I'm having a blast. I love talking. I love your show. I love what we're talking about. I love the audience because they're willing to look at how do we empower. It's this simple family shift your law of abundance to this external thing and make everything fun. And when things don't look slash, feel fun. Ask yourself this question. If I'm a creator and I can create all of this, I can create fun out of any situation. All I have to be willing to do is tap into the emotion. My body will naturally vibrate. You have billions of soldiers in your body that you call cells that will vibrate at the instant of a command. They're waiting. You will buy rate, send that out there. And next thing you know, your goggles that you call eyeballs will shift and you'll see the world completely different in a situation that 10 minutes ago sucked. That's it? That's the secret. Anything else is a really long winded way to get there. I know I've taken many of those bath myself and beating my head against the wall going, there's going to be the answer to the universe generator. I'm on the quest to figure it out. Well, here's the answer, right? Because life goes by fast and it's an adventure. And if you have friends, family, anybody you meet as strangers and say, are you willing to go have fun? 99, 9% of the time? They'll say, yeah, the question is, are you willing to ask and are you willing to go yourself? And that's where we get stuck. And that's what the quest of my life is about, is to go, Hey, here's a blueprint and a very fun way. And adventure format with myself and my partners, all fellow teachers, all respective in our realms going, what if we took this as an adventure for them? What have we made? Entrepreneurial-ism fun. What if we make the self-awareness fun? What if we made parenting fun? What if we made our own body fun? What if we did that? Because nobody's really ever done it and here we are. Right. That's amazing. I love this concept. I love it. Bringing it back to the SQL that you did to the secret, which, I mean, I think I wrote the entire movie out in an open. And then I was like, okay, I got to go back and watch it again. Just love it. Right. The knowledge, the information. And it's again, just like you're saying so simple. And I always felt years ago. We, again, we won't age ourselves when the secret first came out, I always felt, you know, I was doing everything. I mean, I've been like you on this journey of believing and knowing there's always something more, but I knew something was missing from the secret. I knew somebody held out on me. Well, you share with us what the secret to the secret is. Yeah, a couple of things full. One of the things that, uh, you know, inside the quest that we haven't already go through is called architectural symbology, which is a really fancy way of saying we're going to teach your archetypes in a whole new way. That's never been done before and make it fun. We start you off with the first four prime architects, the warrior, the wizard, the Bard, and the jester. And when you see how these play out and how you're playing out, two things occur immediately and it changes instantaneously. Like you see the world one, you see how you're showing up, like right now, your brilliant wizard, you're running the show. And you're thinking about questions, ask I'm throwing all this information at you. You're mitigating the audience, editing. All these things are going through that wizard, mind of yours. And the wizard is the genius part of us. It's the one that comes up with these ideas and blueprints and the genius to go to the moon and the things that we've done as a species, but with everything, there's always a balance in the universe. And the flaw of our wizard is that we analyze. To death. We literally stare at ceiling fans for hours and days and nights going. What's the answer. And we can't figure it out, which goes back to our sequencing, mind, body, spirit, mind can't solve itself. So we have to shift out of our wizard after we've taken in the data. The problem is most of us don't guilty as charged. I can be a super wizard too. Right. And we don't shift out the secret to the secret is what I said in the previous one. Everyone says, Hey, if I just think it, write it down. A Ferrari is going to fall out of the sky. Well, let me ask how many Ferrari's do you add? Not okay. So that model doesn't work, but we cling onto it because what we cling onto really is hope. Here's the problem with hope, no different than the balance universe. It has an underlying implication of doubt. I hope it works out. I hope for the best book. I planned for the worst, which lets you know, that's a wizard mind concept. So when you step back and me go, we need to shift to knowing the K N O w right? When you think about knowing and when you think about knowing our wizard mind goes, but I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to get this RV that you're talking about on how do I plan my trip and what's my route and how am I gonna hook my satellite feet shut up. That has nothing to do with it. It has to do with, is it fun because no different than if you go back to the, one of the great books of all time that I think is probably one of the most underplayed is the self-esteem prophecy. And it told a metaphor realm of, Hey, these are these kinds of laws of the universe of how do we do things going from one thing to another. And the real simple is breathing. Breathing fear is excitement without breathing. So when we get scared, there's two things that occur when we stop breathing. So for example, I get scared. You scared me. What's the first thing we do. We grab our breath. We. We go into instantaneous fight or flight. It's a chemical reaction or higher our hardware really. Here's what you don't know when you're in that moment of fear or you're staring at the ceiling band and you're activating the fear. What you're really doing is stopping breathing. And remember, breath is life, not my rules. The universe has rules. So we have that conversation. If you want. It's a simple rule. If we stop breathing, our subconscious doesn't stop, which means the moment you stop breathing, everything that's happening in that experience or in that thought process. And that conversation bang goes right into your subconscious, like a chalkboard and writes down all these beautiful belief structures. And then you start compounding them because you go into autopilot because most of our life is automated from the subconscious. So we get an autopilot yet our conscious intention. If I may quote the great neon, Dr. Wayne Dyer and power of intention when your intention is noble, but we also have that age old, please say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And that's because what's happening underneath is the truth. And we're so scared to look at it because we've been told if we go down here, I'm going to have to relive my pain. I'm gonna have to go to deep therapy. I'm going to have to go sing kumbaya, naked, dancing, and ran on a beach. All of those are fun, but it doesn't have to be that way. Transformation. Is what makes you the creator? It is exactly your timidity manifested to transform yourself to anything. You can transform yourself from a snail to a CEO. You can transform yourself from a, you know, I'm not famous to I'm famous. We do it every single day here. Now on social media, through the power of the internet, the question is, do you really want it? And is it based on the adventure of fun? That's the secret. Otherwise you will spend your lifetime lamenting looking from things to think, and you will find yourself what I call the biggest drug addiction of all time. You can take all the concept of big pharma. You can take it out of, you know, non non-regulated drug use. You can take it out to shamonic journey. Those are all great experiences and they have their things as well. But the number one addiction of humanity is the search. We're addicted to the search because we have hope that we're gonna find our passion. We're gonna find our partner. We're gonna find our purpose. We're gonna find our vision and our legacy. We're going to find it all right. Is there a drugstore out there that says, oh, by the way, the drivers we've got your passion purpose, know where we go out in the spine. We're constantly looking through this filter of the conscious mind. The problem is it's based on an intention, not what's actually going on because the emotion down here through the easy formula is what drives you. It's compelling. You'll do things that, you know, when you're doing it, you're going, what am I nuts? What do you know? And, and we do it anyways because. Subconscious. It's not a made a process. It doesn't get into right or wrong sequences. It doesn't know your intentions. It doesn't really know the difference in reality and fantasy to it. They're one of the same. So why not be in your fantasy land and then watch your fantasy become a reality and have fun doing it. And now you go on the adventure of a lifetime. That's the secret. It's that simple. So for a listener out there, I agree. It is that simple, who says, okay. Okay, Dr. Travis, if it's that simple, I'm about to get on a plane. I'm having a panic attack. I don't know if I can get on there. How am I going to make this fun to get on the plane and get from point a to point B Dr. Chavez? What a great question. First question to use. What is it you're so afraid to let go of control of and what do you really control anyways? I mean, cut the crap. That's the wizard answer. As soon as I hear the wizard renegot Hey, wizard. How about we shifted the gesture mode and people think gesture means clown or jokester. Nothing could be further from the truth. Gestures are the ones that know how to. Just be and enjoy the ride because all of your worry, all of your stress, all the alcohol you consume on the plane, all the movies, you can watch, everything you could do to distract yourself will not distract you. If you're stuck up here in the wizard, it won't. So you get to ask yourself this question. If I'm panicking, there's a high degree of probability. You're not breathing. You're not you're, you're hyperventilating, you're gasping. You're panicking all the puns intended, hence the term panic attack. So when you start about breathing, you go, if I'm so focused on my breathing, which you can consciously intend and control, don't you satisfy the need that you're seeking to satisfy, which is control. I can control my breathing. I can control it, but our wizard says, well, that's not enough because Jennifer, you need to be able to control the plane. You've got to control the turbulence. You need to control the person next to you. Who's you know, doing whatever or not doing whatever you need to control it. Okay. Great. My response to you is when you land on the plane, what's the first thing that you do. Personally, I'm playing Reiki music in my ears and breathing. I rest my case counsel. The first thing that everybody does and remember the great, uh, Pope John Paul used to get out of the plane and he would kiss the ground. You take that, I'm glad that's over. And then the next thing that people do not always, but as a generality, they anesthetize, I need a drink. I need a cigarette. I need to go relax. I need to unwind. Well, if you could do it after the plane, what's the, there was a Dean on the plane, a choice. It's a choice to really go in and people go, come on, Travis. It can't be that simple. And I'm like, okay, you can make it complicated. I know I'm the master of complicating crap. I'm a super wizard by training by birth, even though I was nurtured as a warrior Bard, my natural as a wizard. Okay. I'm an architect. That's what I do. I'm a human architect. So the question becomes if I can. And I'm no better than anybody. I'm just as messed up as everybody else. I just know I am. That's a difference and I at least have a blueprint to go. Oh, okay. I see where I'm tripping myself out. Would you be willing to experience it? What if you stayed focused for a four-hour flight? Let's say from Atlanta to lax, couple of flat. I do often myself. Okay. And during certain times of the year going through the middle part of the country, it's turbulent. Right. And I can't control Texas in Oklahoma. Although you had to go fly over them. If you want to get the gun to get across there, what have you stayed so focused? And so intendant now we're back to your intention. Again, family. So intended that during those four hours you are focused on maybe square breathing, you are focused on buyer breeding, you were focused on alchemy breathing. You were so focused for those four hours. You won't even have time to be aware of what's going on because the more you breathing in that experience and anybody who's done, like say someone Tropic or holotropic breathing, which we do in the quest as well, or seafood John golf. What am I really worried about? I'm just creating drama and that's okay. The bar, none of us likes to be drama, Kings and Queens. We're all drama Kings or Queens. And that's fun too. But if it's not fun, then ask yourself, what is it you're seeking to evoke mean? My control, my, my need to feel this way because I feel comfortable in panic or I feel comfortable in worry. I feel comfortable in that control because again, at the end of the day, you're choosing to get on the plane. Nobody's twisting your arm to get on that plane. You could drive. If you want it to, you could take a train. You could walk. There's a hundred other options. So you're choosing it. So one of embrace it and make it fun. I love it. We're all gonna embrace our next flights. I'll have you on speed dial doctor. We have a problem. Houston. We have a problem and it happens often, you know, and my private clients go on and say, oh, I'm having a panic attack. Like cool. What's fun about. And there's dead silence. It's like there was a moment ago. What do you mean panic attacks are fun. Says who creator. I mean, look, you don't get the opportunity to be a hypocrite and we all are. So let's just own this crap and have some fun with it. We're all hypocritical. BSRs we BS ourselves every single day. I'm guilty as charged to the question. Is, are you having fun when you catch yourself or do you condemn yourself to the wizard brain? Most of us condemn ourselves and go, well, Jennifer, you need to get better at this. You need to stay more centered and you need to be more manifesting. You've got to be positive all the time. Yeah. But that's a conscious intention. Are you feeling that here? Because if you're not, no, you're just really doing some good hypnosis and the way that you know that this little thing called your voice box, which is trapped between your wizard, mind and your warrior heart. And when the voice comes out, all you have to do is look at what's vibrating back at you. Be present. Hmm. I just realized I'm creating more panic. Why? Because it feels safe. Why? Because I feel like I could control something. My response to you is where's the adventure in that, right? Because there isn't and the, one of the greatest lessons I learned, it took me 48 years to learn it. So family, please learn a lot faster than I did was at Kilimanjaro. And right, when you go to summit, you know, you're at base camp at 15,000, you start climbing at midnight, midnight. Now you just got there. You only have about three hours sleep and it's fricking cold. At least for me, it was zero. So that's cold for me. And I got coolers with the top, but that next climb is a, almost a 3000 vertical. So you start at midnight, a seven hour climb and you're, and I asked the, the one guy that came with it. And our party. I said, I'm just really curious. Why didn't you tell me what we were up against? Why didn't you say, Hey guys, this is going to be a vertical climb. It's going to test everything you've got. And the answer was the most brilliant, simple answer I'd ever heard. And he'd summed it over 200 times. So, okay. You're the master of that. I'm not, he said, Travis, if I told you and showed you what you had to climb, you wouldn't do it. He's right, because it's not an adventure. All you see is vertical climb. It's getting colder. I don't want to go up to the top. Cause it turns, you know, ice and you get cross winds and et cetera, et cetera, which is what summits do. So your brain goes, are you nuts? What are you doing? Fox? You're your emotion kid. You have no business being up here, but in the masking of the darkness, puns intended, right? The masculine about darkness, the truth is revealed. And I don't let me the hidden secrets because we're all keep secrets. And like, I don't know why we do. I was guilty of it for my first 20 years. Right. Trying to be Dr. Fox, the perfect guy on television at all the. Not at all frickin answers. I don't know. I'm making crap up too. I don't know. I'm repeating what they taught me. I had to go on my own adventure to finally go well, who is Travis? Without all the doctorates who is Travis, without all the awards and all these other things who is this man, because this mountain is not going to move. It's not going to move it. It'll let you die by it. That's your choice. So be it, if you choose to live, so be it, but you get to choose. So when you look at things and go like your RV, uh, well, I'm, I'm working on it. We both know right now you have enough power, enough shops. You have enough charm, you have enough, uh, everything in you to go. I'm doing this now. I don't know how it's all going to work out, but that's the adventure of it. And your audience, we get to go with you. I'm in, let's do it. Let's meet somewhere in the middle of nowhere, Parkside by art RVs and broadcast. It goes, why not every day that we're not living in our fun experience in our adventure. We don't get back. And that's what Kilimanjaro taught me was, Hey, look, if you don't breathe up there at 19,000 feet, you do. There's no one's going to save you. There's no helicopter. There's no nine 11. There's no cell service. There's nothing. There's the mountain, the ice and you, and you get to really determine, am I going to breathe life into myself and the creator that you are? Cause that's what creation really is. Pick any theological religion. Every one of them starts with the same thing. God breathed life into. Hey, if it works for the big guy upstairs, maybe we ought to just follow the path and stop trying to reinvent the dang wheel. Cause we haven't invented the fricking wheel breathe, but breathing. We sweet. So hypnotize ourselves to believe and I'm guilty of it too. I did it for 20 years. I have new breath. Been involved in it, but really never dove into the front of it. I thought, ah, you know, that breath work is, uh, why am I doing that? Well, I just want to get a, we'll get warm. No, you're breathing life into you. And when you breathe life into that, which you have buried will come up and it doesn't have to be traumatic. You don't have to go through this deep dark experience or what you might, but you can make that fun to go. Cool. I'm finally breathing that out so that I can be me because the, the number one addiction to the search is that the search is trying to drive you to be a better Jennifer, better than what better than whom. You're amazing. You're unique. You're already the original. You created this experience and you would call Jennifer in this body and then whatever your belief structure is, whether you do it again or you're one and done, that's up to you guys to choose your belief structure. But the bottom line is you're fricking here. You're already a creator, but we don't want to own the stuff that we create that we don't want. We only want to own the creations that we want because it sounds cool to cocktail parties and on social media, Hey look, it I'm on Jennifer show. I created the show. No I didn't. You got to say no. I said, Hey, I'd love the opportunity. I think it'll be great. Fun. You said yes. And here we are. So it took both of us to co-create this experience of your show of empowered within. So when you look at that and people go, wow, look, come on, Travis. That simple, isn't everything. Isn't everything. And we make it complex up here in this wizard brain called education. Yet our intelligence came with. And you know that somewhere inside you and I don't need to teach you how to have fun. I don't need to teach you that experience. Anybody tells you, they need to teach you how to just flat out lying. You don't need to teach you that you got it in spades. We all do the question is, are you activating it? And that starts with a breadth ago. I just realized I'm putting myself in fear. Fear is excitement without reading. There's excited. How can I make this fun? Now take that wizard brain of yours and blueprint, a map of fun and bunk. Be something just a slight shift. It could be shifting from a pen to a crane. It could be, Hey, you know what? We're not going to sign up on the basketball, sign the contract on the floor. Hey, you know what? We're going to take all our, uh, our suits off. We're all going to do this in bathing suits. We're gonna sign the contract at the beach because that's what you'll remember when you tell the story of your journey, because every journey starts with that, with that fun moment where we're going to go on this adventure, but life's an adventure. So make, make it fun. And the other days that aren't going to be fun. I get that, but you can make them. Right. You make a button. We can choose you're the creator. So you get to own it 24 7 or dump your choice. But there's no victim. Can't be a victim here. Right? That's like, that's a psych construct. Right? Right. I love this. So, sorry. I went a little run there. Apologize families, Jennifer show. I just got, I want to run volunteer. No, no, you weave right in and out of everything that we wanted to talk about, you talk about something and I love this terminology that you use. Beautiful dark. Yeah. And when I heard you use that terminology, it, it shifted something in me from hearing shadow work or, your demons or this or that. And I know people get like, Pete people start talking about shadow work and they're like, well, maybe not today, but you talk about beautiful darkness and yeah, I I really want you to share that because literally when I heard you speak in, in those two words, you changed so much that I wasn't even aware of. What's going to be changing. Yeah. Beautiful darkness came. Uh, my partner and CEO, when we started really looking at shadow work, I've done a lot of shadow work myself, you know, and I always tell people, I'm like, I'm, I'm a terrible drinker, but if, Hey, if you want to go on a psychedelic journey, shamonic journey I'm in. Right. And it's not because it's an escape. It's sometimes I need this thing to stop talking so I can listen. And sometimes I get so lost in my head that helped me just. Now I don't do it every day, clearly. Uh, it's, it's a very powerful medicine and it should be guided by a true shaman. However, when you look at the beautiful darkness, let's be candid. Every hero's journey, whether you follow Carl Young, whether you follow the typicals, whether you follow the concept of the power of intention, whether you follow the secret beyond the secret, it doesn't matter. You must go through the darkness of your own illusion. But what we've been told is Jennifer, you need to go back and remember how mommy didn't hug you and daddy didn't approve of your first boyfriend or girlfriend. You need to do this or that. Why. That's not what shadow work is. Shadow work is owning the part of you, the darkness and the light are symbiotic in synchronicity. They require each other, but we're so busy going. I need to be light. Let me solve this for you, family. If I may be so bold, you don't need to be more enlightened. You already are fricking enlightened. What you get to look at is how come you keep putting layers of sunglasses and belling your light under the guides up, I'm controlling myself or I'm doing the workup here. Like the works here, take off the layers of the beautiful darkness. And then you start to appreciate that in the dark. Now think about this. A lot of our romanticism starts in the dark. A lot of our truth is hidden in the dark. Our secrets are hidden. The dark they're hidden in the dungeon of our castle. They're hidden. Why that's where the truth is. If you want to know anything about anybody, ask them to what their shadows are, what is their, their guilt or anger, the resentment, their shame, their hidden secrets, their nonacceptance of self, their unfulfilled potential. The list goes on and on and on. But when you start looking at the beautiful darkness you go, you know what occurs to me if I just look at it and I own it, it literally goes like that. It will dissipate. And I'm not talking magic here. I'm talking it dissipates because you, as the creator acknowledging it, you're not fighting it. That takes a ton of energy. Oh, a lot of it. But two, the moment you acknowledge. It integrates into you and the light that you are that you always have been, you always shall be right there, shining all the time and you start to appreciate it. And again, stop fearing it and get excited about taking out that layer, taking out that lens and stop talking to that. The water cooler on social media, about how enlightened you think you are and need to be knock it off. You're all in line. Every one of us has enlightened. We're here, calm down. We're the only neighbors on the block. The solar system is empty at the current moment to our best awareness. So we're the only ones that we got. We got this part covered, right? There's other things out there we're not there yet, but when you look at it from a fun perspective, it demystifies it, it makes it more exciting to go. Okay. Kind of tired of carrying around this guilt or the shame or this resentment, this anger or whatever. Right. And you're going to do this often, but know that the fun is when you do that, two things occur. You'll naturally feel lighter all by yourself because you already are light. And that stops the addiction of, I need to go wake myself up. No, you need to stop hypnotizing yourself that you need to wake up. That's the process. And when you look at that, you get to laugh at yourself and go, that's funny. I find Fox myself by my use the pun of my last name. I love it. I thought to myself, I'm like, ah, well, if I can mind flex myself into that illusion, doesn't it stand to reason. Stand to proof, stand to the laws of the universe. However you wanna define it, that you can create it this way. The question is, are you willing? And that my friends is where it becomes beautiful because you start to recognize there is beauty in both light and dark. We love the. Y it's romantic. We have big bull moons. You go, wow, that's amazing. But it's a false light. It's a false light. And that's the lesson in it. It is light. It's still broadcasting from the only illuminated thing in our solar system called the sun. She does like you just like me, just like all of us listening to the show. You're already enlightened now for some of you, your wizard brain right now is going, you know what, Jennifer, Travis, I really like this. I'm excited. I can feel it. It's infectious. It's great. But, and you're going to give me all these logical reasons of why. Why, why, why, why, why? And my response is cool. Are you done? Cause it's still going to boil down to a choice. If you can create that much neurosis, that much self-inflicted insanity, which we all do me included, or we can go. Hmm. What if I just created fun because who wants to hang out with someone who is completely messed up and locked into this thing? I know I don't even like to hang out with Travis when I'm in that space because. But I have to deal with me. So if I shifted the fund by breathing and going, I'm putting myself in a fear state. I'm creating that state. My body's responding to it. I feel it everywhere. And then vibratory, I'm pushing the world, whether I like it or not, regardless of my conscious intention, but if I breathe in and I shift and go, okay, I'm going to breathe until I recognize this. My body is generating a different feeling, regardless of my thought. We'll capitulate. It will conform. It is neuroplastic. It will Mally, it will Mally be adapt itself when it comes from inside, because that's the journey we're all really on. And that's the real creation. And when you come from that point of view, managing mystifies, and, and guess what, you're gonna have a whole lot of friends at the summit of Kilimanjaro, because you're all going together and you're all gonna tell great stories of the adventures and the quests you went on in your lifetime. And that makes it fun. Well, it does make it fun. So when you do talk a lot about breath and a lot about breath work, and that's a big thing, that's like the new big thing, like again, something new this last year, year and a half breathing. Do you have the technique? I've, know, worked with different breathing techniques. What's your theory on all of these new breathing techniques? Well, I don't claim to do the master of breath word, my breath. My mastership is in, you know, I'm a showman, I'm a producer, I'm a director, but I'm a teacher at heart. Right. Um, I'm still master architect, right. What we do here. And that's really my, my ballywick my good friend, seafood, John Goff, who is a master of breath work has been in that space for 22 years. Um, I learned it from him in back so much. We brought him into the quest for that specific reason to teach the entrepreneurs breathing because people never thought about breathing and entrepreneurial live. I think only in spiritualism and self development. I'm like, show me anybody who's in business, whether they're an entrepreneur and employee and employer, teacher, coach, trainer, facility. Who is it personally tied to their business nowadays? There's no such thing as five o'clock in the deck, the clock stopped. We don't do that anymore. That's that part of our society is gone at least for now. So breathwork became an interesting process. And in that process, we do teach four different breathing techniques in the first quest. Now there's multiples after that, but it's a simple breathing technique to get you present. I talk about it a lot because it's a simple thing you can control. And our wizard brains always want control. They all do. We want to control everything? Why? Because we're egomaniacs because our brain has a survival mechanism because you know, we think therefore we are. And I'm like, no, no, no, you are. And you can change your thinking. We've got to get our sequencing on a different plan, a different aspect. And so breathwork became the simplest of thing. It's free. It's a choice. You can create it. And it's abundant. Last I checked, that's a law of abundance. So when we look at it, it takes away all the logical. Excuses, the pit of BS that we throw ourselves in of all the reasons why it just takes them away. And then your face we're back to this again, with the beautiful darkness of, I am self inflicting this on myself. Yes. I know people are going to I've had thousands of people try to trap. You don't know my situation. You're right. I don't. What does that have to do with the price of the, in China? Nothing you can breathe right now. I've been through hell and back to, I continue to do it because that's a part of the journey. You're going to dive in the pit. But if you dive in the pit with I'm aware that I'm going there, I'm going to look, experience and feel things, but I don't have to hold onto him. I can breathe my way through it. I don't have to figure it all out. I don't have to control it. If you breathe through it, it will dissipate all on its own. Because if you were to subscribe to the energy of creation, law of manifestation, the law of attraction, if you subscribe to. You are equally bound to subscribe that you can create that over here in your breathing. Otherwise you don't really believe in it and you are back to hope. And then you wonder why the Ferrari's not your driveway. It's that simple, but it doesn't feel good to hear that because that unwinds, this big labyrinth and maze and all this drama, Debra, you don't know what I've been through. It's unbelievable. I'm like, okay, that's beautiful bar. And I love the bars because I'm a bar too. We're big feelers. And we understand how the audience feels, but let's be candid. It's an illusion. Everything about the BARDA Shakespeare said all the world's a stage. So if you're going to play, play that victim role for a moment, know that you're playing it, laugh at it for a second, not laugh at yourself in a putting down, laughing, going. That was a cool creation. And now I'm going to breathe into this. I'm going to create. And I'm going to book for fun. And if it's not fun, I'm not going to participate. It's just a choice. And some of those things are going to scare you a little bit, but again, that's fear is excitement without breathing. So you keep pulling the sunglasses up and guess what all of a sudden your life changes and you go, man, I was making this really hard. I was really just towing the line, like for what. Right. So when you're working with your breath, when you're having a moment, excuse me, when you're maybe finding a moment of fear, how are you breathing? Yeah, it depends on what beer I'm basing. So sometimes for example, when I get scared, I get cold because I don't like cold. I know I have to be six foot just so I have six foot two. So, you know, that's a long way from my blood to move down to my feet, my hands. So my extremities get cold. So I may shift a fire, breathing, you know, fire breathing is a very where I'm increasing the heat in my body. I'm forcing the oxygen in my body to wake up because it will naturally be its own thermometer. There are times when I'm breathing to some heavy, intense work or I'm going to work with other clients or around the quest, because on the quest that happens, people go through, oh my God, I've got to raise money or I'm getting ready to sell my company or whatever. Right. Uh, sometimes it's just good old fashioned square breathing just to be conscious of, to take a deep breath in and hold. Because we have this illusion that we have to, we have to constantly breathing now. Let's, Gaspe, that's not breathing. And when you look at the concept of less square breathing, whether it's a five count to 10 count of 30 count, doesn't matter, work your way up. You'll discover that your body can hold a ton more oxygen when you breathe into it. And then when you, as you're breathing out, you can then move into the emotion. If you want to, or you could just stay on the breath. I tend to stay on the breath. Sometimes I go to alchemy breathing where it's, you know, into the nose, out to the mountain, to the nose, out the mouth. It's no south mouth. And then I'll expel everything hard, coal retention and hold it. And then I get to watch this little thing called fight or flight that goes, Jennifer, you're holding your breath for 10 seconds and you have no air in your lungs. No, you're not even going to come close. You're awake. You're finding out you can live without oxygen and not gasping for air every 30 seconds or every three seconds that you normally do, then your need of importance to get things out or whatever it really trains you and starts to identify where we inject so much fear into everything we do and fear is this, you know, and we all know it cognitively, but we really own it as fear as this deadly silent killer and it doesn't kill like that. It kills slowly. You know, you can go back. Some of those old sayings that says, you know, the, the deaths are a thousand cuts or one shot you choose. I prefer one shop probably for my Japanese influence, but going, wait a minute. If I'm going to create this, I can create it over here. But we avoid this because we've told it's scary. We're going to be out of control. You might find out I'm a mess. What of Jennifer finds out the Travis? The great Dr. Vox with all of this stuff. That sounds really cool on my EPK and my PR sheet. Yeah, I get scared too. Do I get vulnerable? Do I get weak? Do I have doubts? I do every single day. And cool. Now let's another opportunity choice. Now we're back to creation again, manifestation to breathe into it and go cool fears, excitement without breathing quest on how can I make this fun now? Does it mean every moment is going to be a 10 on your meter? I dunno. It could be if you want it to be you're a creator, but in nothing else, just the practice of shifting to fund and I double dog dare you. If I could go back to our youth family, right? So I double bag all of your Jennifer's audience. You've wasted a couple of years being in fear. So one day is not going to really make a whole difference except for one thing, no different than the beautiful darkness awareness. You thank you for the compliment is to go. What if I just took one whole day, just one. And we actually do this in the quest. That's called the day of days. We show you how to do it in detail, but the simple way is it, what if I took one whole day and every person I meet every task I do. Every bill, I pay everything I do. I breathe. And I say, And I'm not talking about cognitive, fine, like, oh, this is fun, positive affirmation. The reason they're called positive affirmations family, because deep down underneath they positive. That's why they're called. And Norman Vincent Peale's name, his book out of the fifties learned optimism. You have to learn to be optimistic. That's not how this thing's built. It's built the other way. So we have to learn it. But if we learn it, mind your mind, it's going to take a long time. We're going to beat our head against that wall. Again, expect the gum door. But if we breathe, it's intuitive. It's the magic of the universe. It's the adventure. It is the great mystery that we can define as the universal theory of one, God cheat, a law Krishna. I don't care, whatever label you want to put on it, to define it for yourself. It's still going to come back to the same thing, the breadth of life. And if you've ever been around someone who who's taking their last breath and I've had the great honor of doing that with many, many people, it is crystal clear when that breath expels the body. Then the light leaves and you can see it in their eyes. And it is a clear reminder. You've always been enlightened. You've always been light, but we have stuck down through our upbringing, through our cultures, through what we think we're supposed to be successful. I felt guilty to a, to family. You know, I, I did all that stuff. Do think I was successful and I got there. I went, This sucks. I'm by myself. That's not what I wanted, but that's what I thought I wanted. What I really wanted was to have adventures. This is like when we do our trips and we take people on the trips, these trips are experiences. They're not going, Hey, Jennifer, you and I are going to go hang out in a pre-built bus and we're going to drive to the five-star, um, uh, Ahmad hotel. And we're going to have a week of spot. Hey, that's great. But does that really, really put you on the adventure? You. Or how about this? Why don't you come with Africa with us? We're going to go out and we're going to stay with the Messiah. Try. We're going to stay with a great loss size and we're going to live like them for three days, drop all your BS. You're going to do what they do. And then we're going to go out and we're going to hang out with the Hadza bay and the HODs of bear, the, the largest known and oldest nomadic tribe in Africa. And I've stayed with them for four days. They're nomadic. They don't have houses and cars and they are telling you straight. There are some of the happiest people I have met on this planet. I have circled this world three times and I sat with them for four days and said, I have never broken out to dance for no reason without music, clubs, et cetera, et cetera. I have never known that kind of bliss. And I have never. Everett all of my gratitude journal and all of my stuff that I write down. I think I'm really gracious for when I had to get up at four in the morning and I know coffee place around and there's a fire and you make it with the plant. Then you make your bow and arrow and you have to walk. And you're out in the Bush of Africa for four hours, six miles before you get your first look and an opportunity to hunt, then you become crystal clear your grocery store and the road to get your grocery store and all the systems that we put in place, which are amazing are really awesome. And they're fun. And then you start to understand here what gratitude really is because when you get this little morsel of this little baby Bush, that has to feed six grown men, four hunters, and the two of us, and you look at that, I've never been so grateful and so gracious for something. And even tried to deny it in some sense of nobility. No, no, take it back to the like Kush. Do this, it's a Rite of passage that you're not aware of Travis. And when I took that small piece of monkey, I cried, I cried like a fricking baby. I have it on video. I was like, I bawled because I really understood what the circle of life meant. I understood that that did become a part of my being thank you for that experience. And then I had to hike the six miles back, but that's breakfast. So when you go on these experiences and you've got to see the great Serengeti and you realize, man, hasn't screwed it up with its need to control and you see nature in its finest. You weep, you will never know that kind of list. I encourage, I implore everyone listening to Jennifer show, go to the Serengeti. Got to see it. I got the great opportunity. One of the last five black rhinos on the planet, like got to see one, not at a zoo, just the last there's a living dinosaur and people go, why did you get so excited about that? I'm sorry if T-Rex was chased, can you, I bet you'd be excited. You'd call that fear. What if we went the other way, I got to see it and I got to appreciate it and go, wow, look at what we've done. How can I make this fun? How can we be a part of this? So we take our trips, our trips, our quest to, so you experienced all of the five stars of course as well. But you experienced things you've never experienced before because isn't that a reason to go on a trip? I mean, yes. I understand you want to go to your all-inclusive resort and you can drink and eat as much as you want. You can do that at home, go on an adventure because it will change. You you'll bring it home and it will change the people around you just by you being you and three you'll want to do it again. And now. You're inviting yourself to become the true creator you've always been. And what we call the theme park of transformation. You would know that as planet earth, it's the theme park, go ride the rides and the transform yourself to anything you want to be because you know, the same thing, the end result is the same broken deck, but did you really live? That's it. And his incredible advice that I hope all our listeners heed. I know I'm ready. Sign me up for Africa. Like I'm. So I haven't felt this excited about something it's so long, especially after this last year and a half. I'm like living hell inside and nothing. Yes, please. Yes. I want that. Yeah. Oh, it's oh, it's amazing. It's it's a, it's two weeks and this, this trip, which we didn't get to do in 2019, we took the last group to Africa. Um, we're also going to take a charter plane. We're flying over to Uganda. We're going to go to the impenetrable forest and we are going to go up and we're going to sit with the great majestic Silverback, gorillas and that experience. We want to talk about being humbled. I don't give a crap if you're the rock Damon, I love you. You're amazing, dude. But next to a Silverback gorilla, you ain't squat. You get to realize what power is and their herbivores and their most gentle socialistic creatures. But to also recognize you ain't as big and bad as you thought you are. And it's the most humbling experience to sit with them. This, this time we're actually going to get to do it. We're taking that as well. But those experiences, those are the ones that we end up. Whether we go, Jennifer remember went to Africa in 2022 and resolved this. And we did that. And then my friends, then my friends, when we're all manifesting fun, that is when the magic occurs. That's when every single trip we've ever done things show up that we would have never have scripted. We would have never thought of, we meet people, things open up opportunities, present itself. Last time I was there, I got to sit with a Messiah, shaman that wasn't on the itinerary, but I got to sit with a true shaman. I mean, I'm talking to, he's got the cataract over his eye. He's got the gourd with the rocks and he's doing his Chemonics magic. However, he does it. And to sit with him, you could just feel his energy and it wasn't a show. He lives in a mud hut. Very nice. Old old Sage wise, wise, but could see you. And don't, we all really just want to be seen. It was one of the most magical experiences and guess what it costs zero. You just had to show up. You just have to be willing to go hang out with the shaman and suspend everything you think, you know, for 10 minutes and just be, and in fact, that helps you have a great extortion experience to tell because you sat with a Messiah, Shannon, the one, wow. When does that happen? You don't see him having an expensive land or an algorithm and a one-time offer and a wait, but there's more, he just goes, Hey, do you want us want to sit in the hot or not? Wow. Great experience. So those are the things that happen and that's when we're truly creating because we're not controlling. And man, I know I was addicted to control too. And sometimes still can be, cause this little super wizard likes to get. I recognize a wizard when I see one Ms. Jennifer, and it's not, and it's not a disparaging comment. It's how we show up. But in our business, we learn in a fun way. Oh, that's the wizard. That's a word. That's a Bard with the jester. And here's the secret to the secret. And I'll conclude this little, this little dissertation right here with this comment. Everybody wants to like, attracts like, great. Well, if you don't like yourself underneath, that might be a challenge. We'll start with that. But let's assume that you do like attracts light, but like. Doesn't learn from like, like learns from unlike. So if you're a warrior, you believe that you're aware, attract a wizard is your business partner or your relationships so that you have the balance, bring the heart and the mind or vice versa part. My, or if you're a Bart, hang out with the jester because the gesture is going to keep you out of the illusion world of feeling everything and constantly be on the emotional rollercoaster. The justice is going to teach you how to just be and breathe and enjoy the experience. You start to see people in a non-threatening most importantly fun way, and you see how you show up, you see how they're showing up, and now it's about finding your misses and pieces. And that's what we really do work. We're a human puzzle company. Hey, find your missing pieces. And when you find them, it's not that you didn't have it. It's that they unlock it in you when you would go engage with the unlocked. Because unlike the differences where we learn, we go, Hmm. Once we think it's different, that's when you realize, okay, Does that make sense? It makes complete sense. So I have a question for you and all of this amazing world and amazing experiences that you have had. What is one moment in your life that you are most proud of being a father? I'm a father, I'm a three-time father. Um, my two oldest ones are amazing souls, but their neuro-typical, uh, my youngest, my 19 year old is autistic and he's been my greatest teacher. He is what unraveled, because I couldn't do it. I was too wrapped up in my evolution of who Dr. Fox is and a film and television guy and on TV and a radio. And you know, I've got my stuff all put together, told a lie, but it's not a good on television. Right. When he comes along, I have no frame of reference. Jennifer. I don't know how to parent an autistic child. I'm clueless. I thought I got it down with the first boy and girl, I got this through a science man. I'm going to play with the third one because yeah, this is going to be the last one we're going to produce. Well again, what you think and what's going on two different universes. He has not only become my greatest teacher, uh, but also something I talk about often because the, one of the beautiful things about autistics and, you know, being a part of autism speaks and the autism front, it's not an epidemic. It's an evolution family. They are present. They feel what they feel and they are unabashedly, unashamedly, honest. We are so busy being socially, politically correct that we never really speak the truth. We wonder why we have miscommunication and arguments and divorces at 70%. That's not rocket science just step back. But the moment he was born, Uh, and I, I gave him a nickname, which I'll keep quiet, but you'll get the point of it. I knew in the womb and I've, it came to me from my own. My own divinity came through that his nickname was actually going to be my undoing and I knew it coming. And at first I embraced it and then my wizard brain tried to fight it, control it. And that was, I knew that he was going to melt my heart, that there was no way that this kid was not going to see me. There was no way that all my accolades, all the letters before and after my name and all the statues and all the words and the thing, all these other things are supposed to make, you know, Travis Fox. Great. He could care less. Question was, he's like, Hey dad, are you willing to be in the room with me? Are you willing to just be present and all your communication tactics and all your skills as a master communicator, master architect, all of these things that you have, right? Aren't going to work because autistics are present. They're feelers, not from a Bard perspective, but from a fully balanced archetipal perspective, their warrior, their wizard, their Bard and their gesture are all. They're just present. They are the proverbial king and queen of their own legacy of their own castle, that all of us are striving to be. They are it. And there's such a beautiful example. So my most proud moment of all the things that I've experienced in accomplished is as being his father because he chose me. And I have no idea why. All I know is still get emotional. He, uh, he changed me because I couldn't do it. So jump on this thing. Thank you for sharing. That is such a blessing. And I, I have so many friends that have autistic children that I can't wait for them to hear this. And to hear your story because it's, I really feel that that's going to shed new light. And a new perspective on their day-to-day life, too. Thank you for sharing. You're welcome. Yeah, I mean, he, it's a that's, it's not the heart of bull, the heart of the warrior, right? That's the castle. That's what we're all really fighting for. And I we're fighting for that, the legacy, but it requires sometimes we have to unlock our castle door and mine was locked tighter than, you know, Fort Knox and in a most brilliant the way in a masterful way, he taught me just by sitting there and staring at me and saying, daddy, are you going to be present? And you know, I, at first I tried to fake it. Yeah, I'm present, let's do this. And dad just could your flashcards, we're going to do these typical. None of that impressed him. He wanted to know, Hey dad, how do we go get on the Sesame street set? How do we go hang out? Cause I want us, I want to sit there and hang out with telly. And I want to hang out with Marie because that's his thing. And I got him. I haven't gotten got, we haven't fulfilled that dream, but come close to coffee studios coffin. If you're out there still waiting. Right. But I got to interview him and he doesn't do a lot of work on camera. But what he does do is he makes nail the, and he's a puppeteer now himself. That's what he loves to do. He makes his own shows on YouTube for other autistic kids. Cause he wants the kids to see the world the way he sees it. He sees it in beauty. He sees it in fun. And as much as I was teaching and preaching fun for my early part of my career, I wasn't being fun. And that was what he came in and said, Hey dad, you don't mind if I reflect this for you? Not the condemning way. Not a judging way. Not you're not good enough, dad. This is what I'm really interested in. It isn't that what's really important. And we all know that intuitively, but we're so good at talking ourselves out of it. I've got a job I got provide and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm guilty of it too. Don't don't be fooled. I'm probably the card-carrying member of that one for sure. But when you stopped and looked at it and I'll, I'll kind of conclude this with a story that I think will summarize it for every parent, uh, especially these times, you know, I believe that I'm one epidemic coming next is the mental health of our kids. And, and I got the great opportunity to meet and hang with Michael Phelps and his wife about mental health. And we were talking about this, they said, this is, this is really kind of the thing coming with our schools and what's going on. We've never seen anything like this before. We have no frame of reference. We've never had a global pandemic like this, a known history that we're aware of. And I remember when, when Corey was seven we're in Atlanta, Georgia. And, uh, it was fall, which to me is weird because I grew up in the west coast. So what's fall what's what are these league things? Right. So when I heard about him, I read about him in books. What does this thing? And most kids, you know, there's a pile of leaves. They jump in route. Okay, great. Cory green sat there and stared at it for five minutes and I just got the opportunity to observe him. And I sat back and watched. Okay. Fox stay out of it. He's up to something let's just watch. You don't need to control it or tell him how to play. Just let them do it. Stop controlling everything. And I watched him and he grabbed these two leaves and he stared at him and he said, I saw his head move. And like, he was just really examining. And of course my wizard brand's like, what the hell is that? Interesting? They're fricking leaves, bro. What are you doing? Control, shut up, Travis. You sat there and stared at him. And all of a sudden he just slowly started to crunch them and it was like this and was Uber fascinated. And then as autistics tend to do, he did what's called modulation. He started flapping his hands because he was so excited. He was so blissful that he literally could not contain it. And I watched him do this for about 20 minutes. Just leave. After Lee, after Lee, I started bawling very much. Like I did a moment ago. I realized at that moment that I had never in anything I'd ever done or experienced in my life, I'd never known Blake. And he taught it to me without ever saying a word and it's affected me forever. So I saved all of you parents autistic or neuro-typical doesn't matter. Often our kids are giving us lessons. We're so busy trying to teach them that we forgot. We used to be kids until we thought we were adults. Check in with your kid, drop down to their eye level, make contact with them because the lesson you're seeking to manifest into your life is probably sitting right in front of you. That's beautiful. Share. Thank you for that. I love that. Well, I hope that you get to have more time with leaves in the future and enjoy far more. I do now, actually I'm out. I'm a big dork. I'm a big goof now and all. Yeah. I get to do all the things I do in film and television, and those are fun. But at the end of the day, I'm a big dork. I'm a big dark. I'm like, I don't know. I'm a goofball. I laugh at myself. I trip over things. You know, sometimes I'm smooth. Sometimes I'm not I, but what I do do that's that is really based on what Corey taught me every day. And even now, as we're doing this interview, I'm practicing it as we speak, can prove it. I take my shoes off and I go stand on the grass. I just stand there. And I just feel the grass for just five, 10 minutes, just to remind myself at the end of the day, it's, that's the easiest way to connect. And then I breathe and I do that. And that lesson was taught from that leaked experience. So I share it he's 19 now, but bill to this day, he'll go out and do the same thing with leaves only. Now I go to it with him. I don't question it. I don't jump. I jump into with tap flat. This is what we're going to do. That's what we're going to do because why not? It's fun. And that lesson has affected me and I got willing thousands of people, cause I've told that story many, many times, but it's something that is truly transitioned parenting, at least from my point of view. Yeah. Yeah, they all do. As I say, not as I do. How about this? How about I just do it with you because I'm still making crap up too. Cause there's no, there's no guidebook parenting just be present. That's the only one that comes with the, with, uh, you know, with the child, just be present with them. And, uh, that's been my greatest teacher, my most proud moment. Thank you for asking you want an incredible moment to share a thank you. Well, I have one other question for you. We're coming to that time in the show and there's this one question. Are you ready? What is one thing that no one knows about Travis? Wow. That's a really good question. Let's see. What is the one thing that knows about, and then they'll have Travis. the one thing that people don't know about. Is I'm, uh, I actually looked like I I'm a big old, you know, I've got it together and I'm trying, I'm a softie, I'm a big old marshmallow. Um, and the older I've gotten, quote unquote, I'm kind of like Benjamin button. I'm actually reversing the older I get the younger I'm becoming emotionally, which is fun for me because I'm like being an adult sucks. I don't, I want to be a kid. Um, the one thing is I'm a big softie. Uh, I, I cry a lot. I'm very emotional, um, from the feeling perspective, which when I was younger, I didn't feel as much I acted like I was feeling, but I wasn't really feeling, but I'm, I'm very, I'm a lot more sensitive than I look, uh, you know, and I, I'm a big softy. I cry at commercials. I cry at movies now. I cry when I see beautiful sunsets or moons, because I think I've finally arrived at the stage in my life. I'm starting to understand what gratitude and appreciation mean by feeling not by definition. Um, and to. Let's see what else? My life's been pretty pretty out there for a long time. So it's a really good question. Uh, I'll tell you what they don't know. That's a great question. Um, uh, I'm going on the adventure. I like all of you to come with me, if you would be willing. Cause it affects us. All. Our goal here at the quest is to, to win a Nobel peace prize. Not because we won another award, but it is the moniker or standard by which we define global change to win a Nobel peace prize from changing the educational system back into a learning system. And that's the quest I'm on right now. It's one where we, we go into every single day into the question. You mentioned that, go with it. But as to do that, because if we're truly going to leave a legacy at Cory, I speak about specifically in my, my two other children of course, is that's really the legacy. Did we really pass on the learning or we invited our children to go learn it on their own and wash, rinse, and repeat. The challenge is because our population is getting bigger time. We try to compress it in the school system, and then we don't learn. We actually get quote-unquote unwisely. As the generations are getting older, that's not how we used to live. That's not how the lions did it. That's out of Egypt. Did it. That's not how any great society has done it. And yet we're skipping over that valuable moment of learning, learning who you are. How do I identify how you show up, how to transform yourself, how to get out of your head, how to take advantage of this entire beautiful thing we call life. Because as if we can date ourselves again, it goes by fast. Those more distractions we have the quicker time goes when you're being present. It tends not to, even though you're having fun, they said when you're having, you know, time flies, you're having. No, it doesn't. I applies, period. I implies me having fun because you're aware that you're having fun. That's what makes it really cool. So, um, what people don't know is our backend mission is to win the Nobel peace prize, change the system back. And again, it's not about the award, it's just the moniker of standard that we have that we can say. We did it myself, my partners, my fellow teachers that are all part of the quest and the daily company here and every great teacher out there, whether you're a parent, whether you don't think you're a teacher, not you are there's someone who needs to hear your story, your message, your invitation, not from a look at me or woe is me because they need to identify. They need to connect with you. Open that up. That's how we pass learning on. And we've done that for generations as a species. And now we're relying too much on our technology to do that, as opposed to just the good old fashioned connection. Right. Great. Well said. Let's tell her audience, you have a major announcement that you would like to make, and then you can also share how they can connect with you outside of the podcast. Yeah, sure. The easiest way is you can go download our app, which is U BQ, which stands for the ultimate business quest. And it is the adventure for people who are in the startup or their growth phase, their entrepreneurial coach. Employee employer. It's truly a great adventure between the four of us who put this together. We've gamified, entrepreneurial-ism transformation and the adventure of going from founder to funding to fortune and make it fun because that's really the quest. That's the first place you'd go. Download app QBQ or go to my quest app, not com uh, as far as announcements concerned. Thanks for the opportunity. Um, as of last week, at the time of the safety of the show, uh, I just signed on to a brand new show called America's re. Deal. Why am I so happy about the show? Because it is exactly what built this country and many countries around the world. So we're all familiar with the other show out there. That's on television where you see companies come up and they're trying to get funding from certain individuals. That's what. But in the essence of it in and of itself, that's still the 1% talking to the 1%. Okay, cool. God bless them. They've done a great job. They have every right to do that and good for you. But what about the rest of us? What about the people who never get an opportunity to invest in a startup company who never see a private placement memorandum? They never get involved, or they don't think they could ever invest because they don't think they're smart enough or whatever. This show is mentored by a series of celebrity mentors. David Meltzer is one of our anchors. If you don't know, David Meltzer goes, but look up. David melty, longtime friend of mine also said on the secret with me and the celebrity mentors mentor these companies so that they can come present to you. The audience, the entire show is for you, the audience to invest in these companies, the celebrity judges don't invest. The show is about showing you all vetted, STC documented, all bought is there. So everything is upfront to take the, I don't know. You get to meet the CEO and the group that is presenting, and you had real time through their app. You can invest in the company, you can buy their product and real time and experience it, or you can just vote. So everybody participates because that's how we built this country. Good old fashioned barn raising. If I can quote Adam Bradley, who who's the CEO of the company, and here's the best part from there, you get crowd money and now you can grow together because now you're going to talk about, Hey Jennifer, I, you know, I just put a thousand dollars in this company that takes all the trash from the ocean and makes these beautiful wood composite that doesn't decompose and doesn't kill our trees, which by the way, it's natural company, I just saw it a couple of weeks ago went. That's amazing, but we never get to hear about these companies and we'd never get to meet the CEOs and the founders and the executives, but we get to do this in a fun way. You have celebrity mentors that have done this time and time and time again, who their only bested interest is to see the success of. The company and the audience, because if we don't start growing together, we've already proved we can grow apart. We've done that as a species and we suck at it. We ended up in war and conflict and we have ended up in competition. Healthy competition is what we're all growing together. And we're going back to what made us amazing as a species, find a need, fill it, let everybody participate in. And we all go together because nobody wants to be at the top by yourself. It sucks. I've been there. We want to be there together. Cause that's how you pass it legacy on. So I got signed on, on the host to season one for the America's real deal. I'm so grateful for the opportunity. And now it takes what we do is everybody who gets to go through the quest. The app I just talked about then sets you up to be an opportunity to come and be applied, to be on the show and get your company funded by the. Without being public, all blood for the sec, everything's above board and transparent, and God knows, however, you define God, man. We need transparency now more than ever in everything that we're doing, because things are just kind of out there in a weird space. So, uh, I, I completed the contract as of last week. I'm grateful David Milch was gonna be part of the show. Several of the celebrities are coming on board and you, the audience it's about you finally, it's truly about not just your boat, but your participation because now it's an opportunity. So that was my great announcement. Thanks for you're the first podcast. I've got to be nuts that I'm by the way. So you have that dubious honor. If I may be so old to say, you know, the empower within this is empowering us within, in the United States and in the country itself and in the world, because anybody can invest because all you need is a phone watch thing and. And it could be from a hundred dollars to 5 million, depending on your investment strategy, but you get to invest in these companies and that creativity is what we need. And that is when we go on an adventure because now we get to participate. And when you're a part of something bigger than yourself, you'll talk about it all day long. And guess what? It gets revenue revenue, but it's profit. And now there's enough for everybody. Cause there always has been and there always will be. Now we're just going to spread it among the people. Well, first and foremost, congratulations, this, I'm so excited for you. This sounds amazing. I love this sense of community bringing us all together. This is what we need so desperately right now. Oh my goodness. This is an answer to so many different prayers. What an incredible opportunity and show. And I couldn't think of anyone better to host it than you. Ah, I think this, um, I'm having fun. I was super excited when they said, Hey Travis, because originally they invited me to just be a guest. And then all of a sudden, you know, uh, Adam and, uh, Russia, who are the, uh, the president and the CEO said, um, would you be willing to host. I said, no, I want to host the show. I've waited my whole career for a show that ties in everything we do at, at, uh, um, the ultimate business class and get to real funding of the people, not just, you know, and those institutions are great. Don't get me wrong. There's no disrespect, but the people that's just where the masses are. And then let that company be based on growth and revenue. We're all growing it together. Oh man, I'm in, sign me up. I'm on the adventure. Let's go, whatever it takes. I'm in. And now we're brag. Get we're in pre-production right now. We're supposed to go into production here at about 30 to 45 days subject to the executive producer, of course, cause that's the boss and I'm excited because I get to meet all these new creative entrepreneurs and companies talk to the celebrity judges and most of them. The people, people, you have the opportunity to invest a hundred dollars, a thousand, whatever that you never would have got a shot at before. And man now more than ever that's community, that's an old fashioned bar raising. We're going to go help build this bar. We're going to be a part of it. I put that two by four up Jennifer, put that roof up over there. They have put that window in and you feel part of it. And you make a couple of bucks while you're out at wash, rinse and repeat. And now all of a sudden we've got a movement and that becomes fun. So thank you all. But I'm so grateful that I got to announce it. And thanks for letting me announced here, because you're the first one. So. Uh, uh, hold that dear to my heart, to go Jennifer and power with them was among them. We got the first announcement on, so thank you so excited. Thank you. Thank you for sharing one, to share it with us. And it just warms my heart to this show is going to be one of the next best things for us, because this is what we need. We're moving in that direction and we need a catapult in that direction of bringing us all together. And this sounds like it definitely can do that. There's nothing like supporting the neighbor and the neighbor down the street and in the next state over and knowing that your money is helping your own backyard, so to speak. Yes, I would request download the app. You've got 25 hours of the venture, and then we're going to teach you architect. There's some biology, how to rearchitect your life, your top seven beers. You get your business plan. Everything's in there for you to grow your business, but. Fun is the law of the land. So when you go into the quest with us, you'll have a great time. It's priced for everybody. Whether you have a hundred dollars or a hundred million, this app is for anybody who's in business, because it has to be fun. So let's make fun. Let's make business fun again. Wow. Let's make life fun again. This has been fun. Yeah. Last name is Fox and all out fun. Let's go. They have three letters in each and them we'll start with an F. Love it. Oh my gosh, Travis. Thank you so much for being a part of the show today, sharing your incredible knowledge, your insights, your energies, and most of all, your fun. Thank you. This has been really great. And I know that our listeners are so happy to have you with us and part of our family now, and you're welcome to come back anytime we can help and support your next venture and your next show and hear about your next adventure. I'll take you up on it. Thank you. Awesome. Awesome. Well, as we say until next time, Thank you so much for tuning into another episode, please remember to rate, review and subscribe to empowered within with Jennifer Pilates. Your feedback is important. 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